Hades
Dekart Nov 2, 2020 @ 7:34pm
The game is awsome but when you start the 32 heat challeng e, it becomes really frustrating game.
This game is awsome and I love supergiant but i have to admit when you start to raise the temperature the game becomes really annoying.

Because some technique they use to make it harder just make it frustrating.

I love the faster speed, and everything but most of the time you finish having no more option, you can't built except if you are very lucky.

Some mini boss becomes nearly impossible without trinket.

gorgon head and smashing friend is just ridiculous ... Without sisiphus it is over...


I wanted to explore the game in harder difficulty but i ll quit so bad :/
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Revolver Ocelot Nov 2, 2020 @ 10:18pm 
That's why 32 Heat is completely optional, no? As in, it doesn't even have an achievement. And if you're going for blood/diamonds/ambrosia, you don't need that much Heat anyway.
begulinggg Nov 2, 2020 @ 11:17pm 
Here are some advice to complete your 32 heat:
- Max out all mirror upgrades and companions
- Plan your run. Set up mirror upgrades and pact of punishment relative to the plan, for example: if you are going to go with max hard labor and lasting consequences, go for stubborn defiance, not death defiance
- Seed your run. Finding first boon/hammer that suits your plan is really necessary
- Max out evergreen acorn
- Don't bring sisyphus on high heat runs. Meg, dusa, or patrochilles will help you more
- If you ever find surviving really hard, go for athena
- And finally, dont give up


Some recommended builds to cheese 32 heat:
- Rama bow special + zeus. Try to find a seed that gives you relentless volley as your first upgrades. Go for zeus special + its upgrades + hermes special speed (if possible)
- Chaos shield/Fist + merciful end. Get athena dash as your first boon and then aim for ares attack and athena special
- Eris rail + zeus attack
Evarrice Nov 2, 2020 @ 11:36pm 
Originally posted by Lexxi:
That's why 32 Heat is completely optional, no? As in, it doesn't even have an achievement. And if you're going for blood/diamonds/ambrosia, you don't need that much Heat anyway.

But 32 Heat gives out rewards.

If you do't do it, you're kinda losing out of potential benefits.
FreakeR Nov 3, 2020 @ 12:14am 
if you want to do it just for the reward and don't care for the challenge you can use god mode. It will take 10 or so deaths before it becomes a significant buff, but at least it's a good consolation prize with each death.
Revolver Ocelot Nov 3, 2020 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by ♪ Evarrice ♫:
Originally posted by Lexxi:
That's why 32 Heat is completely optional, no? As in, it doesn't even have an achievement. And if you're going for blood/diamonds/ambrosia, you don't need that much Heat anyway.

But 32 Heat gives out rewards.

If you do't do it, you're kinda losing out of potential benefits.

31 Heat gives rewards too. And 30. And every Heat level, for that matter, with each weapon. Overheating doesn't give anything special. (Unless you meant rewards other than blood/diamonds/ambrosia)
Dekart Nov 3, 2020 @ 1:45am 
thanks for all your answer.

I mean the problem is not the deifficulty but the pleasure to play.

Really at this level i can only play distance.
If i play fist or sword it is just about evade evade evade and it is not fun at all.

Distance weapon deals same damage and safer and maybe even more "fun" to play.

So half of the weapon are almost not usable at this difficulty.

I think the way they made the game harder is just making him boring.

In a way i can reamin between 10 and 24 difficulty but it is a bit sad.

Maybe it is me but, no matter the build i use it is really boring.

tolgen71 Nov 3, 2020 @ 7:01am 
Agreed. Some of the design breaks down at 32 Heat. As mentioned, Distance becomes the only thing really viable. I've narrowed down that only Guan Yu is really viable (IMO at least), because of the 3 distance options because it's the only one with decent damage and decent speed, but even then it's vital to have ONE particular Hammer Upgrade, the 200% special one. I general combine that with Poseiden for the knowback and only then do I feel like I have a fighting chance, and even then I haven't gotten past Asphodel.
Nibbie Nov 3, 2020 @ 7:15am 
IDk, I beat it first try, Aspect of Hades, which is my favorite weapon in general. With so many options you can fine tune the difficulty to something you are comfortable with. For my run for example, I put no time limit and max number of enemies, with the plan of taking my sweet time being careful (the run ended up just over 40 mins). There are a few differences I would make if I ran it again, but it wasn't awful or anything. And for what its worth, the cosmetic skelly statue is the *only* reward for it, bounties stop at 20 heat, and as mentioned there isn't even an achievement for it, because they knew it would be quite difficult for most players. Lastly, if you really want it but want to reduce the tedium you feel, remember that God mode exists. Just toggle it in for those runs.
tolgen71 Nov 3, 2020 @ 8:43am 
♥♥♥♥♥♥. Just got to Hades, second form, less than half life.
Xunkar Nov 4, 2020 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by Lexxi:
Originally posted by ♪ Evarrice ♫:

But 32 Heat gives out rewards.

If you do't do it, you're kinda losing out of potential benefits.

31 Heat gives rewards too. And 30. And every Heat level, for that matter, with each weapon. Overheating doesn't give anything special. (Unless you meant rewards other than blood/diamonds/ambrosia)

You stop earning bounties after Heat 20 as a matter of fact. Heat 21 and above do not hold any kind of reward, unless you count polishing your stats and that Skelly price for the 32.

A very strong build is Eris with Zeus on attack (+ jolted) and Poseidon's dash (+ rupture), you easily trigger the +40% damage of the double curse from the mirror, and if you can nail the duo on top of that it's insanely powerful. You also should experiment with the different heat conditions, you might find it easier with certain combos (I personally avoided hard labor and lasting consequences for instance).
Revolver Ocelot Nov 4, 2020 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by Xunkar:
Originally posted by Lexxi:

31 Heat gives rewards too. And 30. And every Heat level, for that matter, with each weapon. Overheating doesn't give anything special. (Unless you meant rewards other than blood/diamonds/ambrosia)

You stop earning bounties after Heat 20 as a matter of fact. Heat 21 and above do not hold any kind of reward, unless you count polishing your stats and that Skelly price for the 32.

A very strong build is Eris with Zeus on attack (+ jolted) and Poseidon's dash (+ rupture), you easily trigger the +40% damage of the double curse from the mirror, and if you can nail the duo on top of that it's insanely powerful. You also should experiment with the different heat conditions, you might find it easier with certain combos (I personally avoided hard labor and lasting consequences for instance).

Oh, didn't know about Heat 20 being a cut-off for rewards. Kinda assumed that every level gives smth. My bad.
Dekart Nov 5, 2020 @ 1:27am 
I arrive often in front of hades but with no more life at the end.
I can't beat him at that point.
I also hav a lot of pb with the bos of the 3rd level.
Asterion run so fast and unless i got very good dash options you can't avoid him.
So i loose a lot of life in this stage.
I tried several option for the 32 heat but really almost nothing can be done.
If someones knows the way to beat the 2 last bosses ill be happy to learn.

Currently i play the gun with zeus in starter because with out it the game is just a big pain in the ass.

Really the game feel unbalanced at this stage.
kλko Nov 5, 2020 @ 6:21am 
Haha, heat 32 is definitely some Sekiro material. Took me a bunch of hours and some luck. But after having gotten so used to the game, it was good to feel my rear end getting spanked again. It made me appreciate each step I was able to take everytime I started a new run, very much like the first time you play the game.
Piporono Nov 5, 2020 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by tolgen71:
Agreed. Some of the design breaks down at 32 Heat. As mentioned, Distance becomes the only thing really viable. I've narrowed down that only Guan Yu is really viable (IMO at least), because of the 3 distance options because it's the only one with decent damage and decent speed, but even then it's vital to have ONE particular Hammer Upgrade, the 200% special one. I general combine that with Poseiden for the knowback and only then do I feel like I have a fighting chance, and even then I haven't gotten past Asphodel.

32 heats is hard but not impossible. It is doable for every weapons/aspects. A bunch of people has win-streaked them with melee weapons.

Guan Yu is actually not even considered to be a good spear aspect, let alone a good aspect in general. Best spear aspect is Achilles with cast build.

Also, someone has beaten 50 heat with Hades spear, just let you know.

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Date Posted: Nov 2, 2020 @ 7:34pm
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