Should I play this game? A couple of doubts.

[genesiset]

I never played games like this. But I like mythology. I want to get the game, but I watched some youtube review about it from someone who likes this genre of games and he completely critisized Hades on so many levels and I'm unsure if I want to buy it or not.
But that review was published 2 months ago, so I want to ask you if there were some major changes to the recent release?

That youtuber mentioned that this game has a lot of materials/resources and this is a huge downside, he says they should've just leave gold and one resource cause a lot of them give useless upgrades. He says, that some time ago you could get all of these resources in a few runs and get all the stuff you need and so the resources became useless, so the developers made a stupid move: the increased the prices af, so the amount of required currency is not worth the buff/enhancement/item/whatever they give you in exchange. That youtuber proves that there are so many different recourses and upgrades management, but all of it gives so little that you don't even want to bother and you basically can play without upgrades if you don't set high difficulties.
So I want to know if this was changed in V 1.0 or not? Also Im concerned about grind critisism. Like you have to grind so much just to get new dialogs and story, which is very weird for me, I don't want to spend dozens or hundreds of hours. I really don't know if I should buy it.

Anyway, just for the record, if I will decide to play, what build/weapons/whatever would you recommend? I definitely don't like melee weapons and close range playstyle. I'm all about magic or just ranged. I saw some footage, I didn't like that while using a bow you have to kinda charge it for a moment, theres a delay and that annoying huge arrow silhouette before he shoots...looks dull to me, though I don't know maybe it would feel better on practice. What I liked the most is some purple magic or something. Is it OK for beginners, is it available early in the game, explain please.

[Suzaku]

I'll keep it simple: there's basically no magic, and you already sound like you literally hate everything that this game is. Also, that "reviewer" sounds like he should get a job.

[Griever]

It's currently on top list of games. And it's a cheap game.
Personally I love the game, one of the few games on steam worth buying among a sea of trash.
Best value of a game I've had in years. And I'm very demanding and literally stopped buying & playing games because of what I perceive as a decline in the industry.

If you like Diablo style hack & slash going through dungeons and fun dialogues, get it.
There is grind and difficulty once you reach the last level for the first time. But it's up to you if you want to continue beyond that.

Also the game is very addictive. I hate the grind but I literally keep playing for hours just to see how far I can go.

[TheRealRws]

Personally i find the resources quite manageable. They introduce what you can do with each resource slowly. You could always try it out and see if you like it using the steam refund system.

[GeminiEclipse]

You don't grind in this game. You just play the game. The game loop is repetition with randomness in powers. Figuring out what works and what doesn't. Increasing the difficulty slightly when you start to win.

You get resources in that process. They each have their own place and it's pretty easy to manage.

Is there a lot of resources? I don't think so. But that's sort of a personal opinion.

Also something to consider, the Youtuber is a fan of these kinds of games, which means their opinion can be biased against Hades just for not being like those other kinds of games.

[Knight-Hawk]

iv never played games like this,i bought this on a random sale last week,already sunk 25+hours into it,repetitive after a while,but grinding it out is fun and relaxing,+cool music and reading all the texts/chats the NPC Say and stuff,makes it worth doing,imo

[Knight-Hawk]

would reccomend*

[Krull]

If you're not interested in rogue lites and some of the core mechanics already seem to not appeal to you, this is probably not what you're looking for.

Originally posted by TheRealRws:

You could always try it out and see if you like it using the steam refund system.

This is not the intended purpose of the refund system. This is abuse and your ability to refund will be revoked if you make it a habit.

[Omgwtflol]

Originally posted by Krull:

This is not the intended purpose of the refund system. This is abuse and your ability to refund will be revoked if you make it a habit.

Lmao no it won't. Steam's policy is 14 days and/or 2 hours of gameplay. There is no you've refunded too much caveat. And they do make exceptions if you explain yourself.

Ffs you're just making crap up.

[bshock]

If you're only wanting the game for your interest in mythology, you'll be sorely disappointed. It simply only adds flavor to the core rogue like experience, of which you seem not to be a fan of.

Give it a try if you're curious. As mentioned above, you can always refund if dissatisfied. One of the reasons for refunding is you didn't like the game. It's not abusing the system Steam has in place.

[Krull]

Originally posted by Omgwtflol:

Originally posted by Krull:

This is not the intended purpose of the refund system. This is abuse and your ability to refund will be revoked if you make it a habit.

Lmao no it won't. Steam's policy is 14 days and/or 2 hours of gameplay. There is no you've refunded too much caveat. And they do make exceptions if you explain yourself.

Ffs you're just making crap up.

https://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.

They have the right to revoke your ability to refund, and there's no reason for them not to do it if you abuse it. Why would I make this up? There's a reason this is called a refund and a demo is called a demo. It's not the same thing.

That said, it is a grey zone cause on the exact same page it says:

You can request a refund for nearly any purchase on Steam—for any reason. Maybe your PC doesn't meet the hardware requirements; maybe you bought a game by mistake; maybe you played the title for an hour and just didn't like it.

So I guess it is alright to refund games just cause you didn't like them. Although I'd argue Valve is way too generous on this matter.

[FilthySouls]

yea, if the youtuber spoke about gems, darkness and keys; they are indeed pretty grindy and for the most part become useless after you get a few things with them that benefit you in your runs.

I'm not a fan of how a run ends either, it was interesting only the first time. After that you are just fed a few shreds of dialouge as a reward.

The game isn't bad and obviously it's very popular, but it's not as much fun for me personally, as I expected from a roguelite. Does have some charm and laughs though.

[Umbral Knight]

I got this for not even $20 cause I copped in at early access right before it hit 1.0. This game is definitely than worth the asking price, blood and darkness, they could've even priced it at $30 and I'm sure it still would do well.

Then again, this game is not for some people unfamiliar with rogue-likes. There isn't a grind in this game because progression is never gated. If you're super good and complete a full run the first time you play you won't be punished for it.

[AHordeofBunnies]

Grinding to advance the story IS a problem imo. I have 80 hrs in and I have seen the "Ending" but not the Epilogue. On top of that, there is no clear-cut goal for reaching the Epilogue.

Basically, if I want the complete story I have to keep doing runs and hope I accidentally stumble onto the Epilogue. That is a really crap design for a quest, to stumble around and complete it by accident.

It's especially irritating for people like me who are prone to RSI and can't just play games indefinitely. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad but apparently community members know some of the requirements but have been forbidden by the Devs to disclose them. It is almost like they are trying to artificially boost their game's active player count...

[aelf1239]

I'll try to address every question:

1- Mithology: Its an original story, but full of characters and references to greek mithology, plus interesting an fun interactions.

2-Management: There are several currencies, but they are not overwhelming. During a run you only use coins and have to manage that. Outside the runs you have several others but, if you want a "light" experience (probably at lower difficulties), you can just take a look to see if you find something interesting you can afford and then forget. Some passives, like resurrections, are really worth it by the way and have a big impact.

3-Grind: Despite giving more importance to the story than other rogue-likes, it is still a rogue-like, so replayability is implied and it affects the development of the story. Still, the gameplay loop is fun enough to keep interest, but that is subjective, so it depends on your enjoyment of it. It can take those dozens of hours to get the full story, but if you enjoy the gameplay it is not that much of a problem.

4-Weapons: There are 6 weapons, that i would divide in 3 categories:

-Full melee: Sword and Gauntlets

-Mixed: Shield and Spear

-Full Ranged: Bow and Repeating Rifle

Both Shield and Spear have melee and range attacks, but have more damage with melee attacks.

The bow has the charged shot (the range and damage makes it worth it) plus a volley of arrows that works kind of like a shotgun at short range and is useful to hit several enemies at long range.

The rifle has an automatic fire and needs to be reloaded (but has infinite ammo). The secondary fire is a grenade launcher that does damage in a big area but doesnt damage you. It is the last weapon to be unlocked.

5-Magic: If you mean playing like a sorcerer, no. But:

-You have a projectile called Cast that damages and marks enemies (with upgrades the mark has differerent effects). It can also be modifed to have explosive effects, constant damage in an area, or others. You need to pickup the projectile to use it again, but you can upgrade how many you carry.

-You can find Calls. Calls summon a big attack or power up depending on what god you call. For example, Artemis fires a powerful arrow, Zeus summons lightning around you, among others. To use them you fill an special bar as you fight divided in 4 segments. You can spend 1 for a normal version or wait to have 4 for a greater and stronger version.

-The different upgrades you get from gods give bonus effects to your normal attacks, like damage, curses, crowd control, among others.


6-Builds: Due to randomness it is difficult to plan for a build and there are a lot of useful and fun combinations, the best way to find out is experimenting. Since you are interested in range weapons, one that i tried and enjoyed with the rifle was using Ares's Doom effect and upgrades. Doom is a curse that detonates for massive damage after a few seconds and works great with the normal attack. Using Zeus's bolts on the main attack is also good against several enemies (the bolts bounce between enemies). If you happen to like the Shield, Poseidon+Zeus was a nice combination with a lot of damage that gave me my first win.


I think I covered all. Overall fun (and cheap) game but, as others have pointed out, the best way to know is buying and refunding if you didnt like it (just remember not to go over the 2 hours limit)

[Niccolo']

this is the game of the year for me. so get it :D