Hades
Neocronic Jul 5, 2020 @ 9:59am
Aspect of Beowulf weak?
I dont know whats boons i should use with this, i try many of them for cast, but all of tem useless when you fight with bosses. Also shield not work without Hermes attack speed boost. I almost not see any bonuses on high heat.
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squat_instructor Jul 5, 2020 @ 10:07am 
It is a bit wonky but not too bad, I've done some 20 heat runs with it and it was alright. Try Aphro/Artemis/Dio casts for a burst build. I like to get Snow Burst boon from Demeter as well, because with epic rarity just charging 3 of your casts (or more if you get Chaos/Well extra casts) is 3x60 AOE damage (more with more casts) which is great. Alternatively you can build for Special and have regenerating cast, since your special bounces several times before returning.
Neocronic Jul 5, 2020 @ 10:14am 
I try Artemis and when i fight with floor 1 boss i just cant hit her, because she pretty fast with heat and for cast explode need some time, boss just already run from explosion and take no damage. Also this pain when enemy have high movement speed, shield do nothing with special attack against them.
Last edited by Neocronic; Jul 5, 2020 @ 10:15am
squat_instructor Jul 5, 2020 @ 10:22am 
it takes some getting used to and idk about you but I play on a controller and if you use KBM then I understand the struggle with hitting special of faster enemies
Neocronic Jul 5, 2020 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by squat_instructor:
it takes some getting used to and idk about you but I play on a controller and if you use KBM then I understand the struggle with hitting special of faster enemies
Its not about contoller or kbm, its just animation time, between hit with your shield and explosion after that there almost one second, this enought for any enemy just walk away from explosion area.
Vhiny Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:11am 
The Cast is thrown as soon as you stop moving, so if you charge past ennemies, your cast will shoot way behind them.

I think the optimal combos for this weapon would be either Ares's cast or Aphrodite's cast. since they arent "projectiles" and more like AoE damage whenever you use them.
+ I might be wrong but I think Ares's cast just stays in place or barely moves when you use it with the aspect of Baeowolf. The best result I've got was Aphrodite for Attack, Ares for Special and Ares for Cast, along with the upgrade that sucks in ennemies whenever you cast a Bladerift.
Neocronic Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Vhiny:
The Cast is thrown as soon as you stop moving, so if you charge past ennemies, your cast will shoot way behind them.

I think the optimal combos for this weapon would be either Ares's cast or Aphrodite's cast. since they arent "projectiles" and more like AoE damage whenever you use them.
+ I might be wrong but I think Ares's cast just stays in place or barely moves when you use it with the aspect of Baeowolf. The best result I've got was Aphrodite for Attack, Ares for Special and Ares for Cast, along with the upgrade that sucks in ennemies whenever you cast a Bladerift.
Its good, but new aspect of bow works with any boon and deadalus upgrade, just spam Special all time and you destroy everything. Need some balance between weapons. Right now chaos shield best choice for high heat runs. Other aspects almost useless.
Mr.Door Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:34am 
Beowulf is actually insanely strong, even with the recent nerf.
However, you don't bother with the basic attack or Bull Rush; it's slow and too gimmicky to be worth it.

It's all about that special. It already does decent damage but with a focus on Artemis, Athena for the Dodge Dash, and from Daedalus you'd want More Bounce and the one that gives a 400% special charge. Even unfully charge, you'll do 200-600 without crits.

With the bounce, you basically clear rooms instantly, Lerny dies in seconds, and is quite perfect overall.

Only thing, even without the specific Daedalus, it will work but just slower however it will be still quite effective.
Neocronic Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:42am 
Also anyone know good combo for laser weapon? I not see any benefits using this, because you cant destroy projectals or reflect them back.
Last edited by Neocronic; Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:43am
Mr.Door Jul 5, 2020 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by Neocronic:
Also anyone know good combo for laser weapon? I not see any benefits using this, because you cant destroy projectals or reflect them back.

It's pretty strong. It's very good for fast stacking debuffs (think aphro/ares combo or Demeter/Artemis) if you need deflect, go Athena (tho usually you should be getting her for the dash anyway)

Back attacks with exposure quickly ramp up the damage.
Last edited by Mr.Door; Jul 5, 2020 @ 2:19pm
SenorPollo Jul 5, 2020 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by Mr.Door:
Beowulf is actually insanely strong, even with the recent nerf.
However, you don't bother with the basic attack or Bull Rush; it's slow and too gimmicky to be worth it.

It's all about that special. It already does decent damage but with a focus on Artemis, Athena for the Dodge Dash, and from Daedalus you'd want More Bounce and the one that gives a 400% special charge. Even unfully charge, you'll do 200-600 without crits.

With the bounce, you basically clear rooms instantly, Lerny dies in seconds, and is quite perfect overall.

Only thing, even without the specific Daedalus, it will work but just slower however it will be still quite effective.

This. With the right build, I was hitting at 1000+ without even critting, you can dish out extreme damage with that aspect.
Mr.Door Jul 5, 2020 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Poulpus:

This. With the right build, I was hitting at 1000+ without even critting, you can dish out extreme damage with that aspect.

Right? So satisfying one shoting everything in Tartarus and most of Asphodel XD
Brtzlmo Aug 7, 2020 @ 8:21am 
how can you use cast with this aspect? it always just gets loaded into bull rush...
Uli Minati Aug 7, 2020 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Brtzlmo:
how can you use cast with this aspect? it always just gets loaded into bull rush...
You just answered your own question

What the devs probably had in mind: Attack, throw Special, dodge or run around while loading Cast. Bull Rush triple Cast explosion into a group or a powerful enemy. Ammo drops immediately (for most Casts), so rinse and repeat

You turn every projectile Cast into an AoE. Best for Artemis and Aphrodite! Bad for Zeus, since it stops bouncing at massive range. Not good for Dionysus, since it was AoE before, but at least you can stack all three now.
brevous Aug 7, 2020 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Mr.Door:
It's all about that special.

I just finished what was easily my most effortless run. Beowulf special was incredibly powerful, so much so that I didn't cast or even use a standard attack / bull-rush during the final fight. I was hitting 2k damage crits that just melted the boss.

I've found similar success with the Guan Yu special, Hestia rail empowered shot, and Arthur normal attack. 500+ damage standard attacks and even crazier crits.

https://i.imgur.com/vfaxhPX.png

qawal Aug 10, 2020 @ 9:55pm 
Remember! You can load in a cast WHILE you're Bull Rushing.
It'll cause your next Bull Rush to have the wide range bonus even when you don't have a cast loaded in~
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