Amazing L____ build

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Adamant Rail, aspect of Lucifer. plus infinite ammo Hammer boon, plus Athena's Attack boon lets you trivialize any encounter with projectile mobs.

[Gregor]

I like it on the special as well, setting up a boarder of safety (-:

Though does it still just deflect, if it reaches the weapon or does the whole beam reflect, haven't played that combo in quite a while and was a bit shocked, that the beam itself doesn't reflect back when I played it last.

[Specific Beef]

shhhhhh don't invite the nerf :)

[Gregor]

Originally posted by Luxury Malcolm:

shhhhhh don't invite the nerf :)

Sometimes progressing to the status of divine/deity is a task to much for a Zagreus....

[TyresTyco]

Meanwhile I did some runs with the stygan 4th aspect.

Since then I honestly believe that balance feels of. It's so fun and strong.

[Uli Minati]

Originally posted by Gregor:

I like it on the special as well, setting up a boarder of safety (-:

Though does it still just deflect, if it reaches the weapon or does the whole beam reflect, haven't played that combo in quite a while and was a bit shocked, that the beam itself doesn't reflect back when I played it last.

Seen a streamer try this combo - it only gives you a small reflection angle at the muzzle (somewhere around 45°). Still pretty useful! The angle is probably bigger with the triple beam hammer. But getting infinite ammo makes you deal 10-45% less damage, since your damage per "hit" doesn't increase anymore.

Try it with any of the following: Zeus Attack, Artemis Support Fire, Demeter Attack + Arctic Blast, each of these almost doubles your damage

[Gregor]

Originally posted by Uli Minati:

Try it with any of the following: Zeus Attack, Artemis Support Fire, Demeter Attack + Arctic Blast, each of these almost doubles your damage

I like something like Zeus in addition with the Artemis boon that fires an arrow on hit, cast or , special.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by Gregor:

Originally posted by Uli Minati:

Try it with any of the following: Zeus Attack, Artemis Support Fire, Demeter Attack + Arctic Blast, each of these almost doubles your damage

I like something like Zeus in addition with the Artemis boon that fires an arrow on hit, cast or , special.

What that guy said: zone of deflection is the muzzle, with a cone in front of zag.

He's right, it was noticeable how much weaker the weapon was. But the survivability trade off during most of Elysium and how you can mindlessly ignore Hades casts was awesome.

[Wintermute]

I've been running Igneus Eden with some weird garbage on it. Knockback on beam and chill on bombs i think? Still cleared heat 5. Gun is my favourite leg aspect so far. Shield is a solid second place, then sword, then spear. Bow in its usual garbage place - it's pathetic against bosses.

[manafusion]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

I've been running Igneus Eden with some weird garbage on it. Knockback on beam and chill on bombs i think? Still cleared heat 5. Gun is my favourite leg aspect so far. Shield is a solid second place, then sword, then spear. Bow in its usual garbage place - it's pathetic against bosses.

Only good bow is the one where you can stack casts on your primary shot. Take that and take the instant fire upgrade so you don't need to charge your shots.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Indeed. Hera aspect is the only one I use too.

Bow can be strong against bosses, just...less likely to be lol

[Mr.Door]

Originally posted by manafusion:

Originally posted by Wintermute:

I've been running Igneus Eden with some weird garbage on it. Knockback on beam and chill on bombs i think? Still cleared heat 5. Gun is my favourite leg aspect so far. Shield is a solid second place, then sword, then spear. Bow in its usual garbage place - it's pathetic against bosses.

Only good bow is the one where you can stack casts on your primary shot. Take that and take the instant fire upgrade so you don't need to charge your shots.

New bow is also good.
Quick auto-fire special. With +4 arrows from Daedalus and Zeus lightning specials, you just enter a room, hold triangle, watch everything die in an AoE XD Absolutely melts Hydra.

[TyresTyco]

I used the beam gun with athena attack after reading this and unlocking it.. and the deflect on it is so useless against crowds that I really regret taking athena atk instead of dash with it. Against bosses.. it was nice but elysium and styx was hell. Literally. Without some form of (strong) aoe .. it gets really hard.

I didnt like it at all, even with chaos atk boon .. but the gun still is nice.

[Gregor]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

I used the beam gun with athena attack after reading this and unlocking it.. and the deflect on it is so useless against crowds that I really regret taking athena atk instead of dash with it. Against bosses.. it was nice but elysium and styx was hell. Literally. Without some form of (strong) aoe .. it gets really hard.

I didnt like it at all, even with chaos atk boon .. but the gun still is nice.

I personally feel the deflect far stronger on the special then on the attack, since the special stays on the map for a bit of time you've got the possibility to play around with those protective circles the special does offer and you can also increase the area affected by it.

[TyresTyco]

Originally posted by Gregor:

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

I used the beam gun with athena attack after reading this and unlocking it.. and the deflect on it is so useless against crowds that I really regret taking athena atk instead of dash with it. Against bosses.. it was nice but elysium and styx was hell. Literally. Without some form of (strong) aoe .. it gets really hard.

I didnt like it at all, even with chaos atk boon .. but the gun still is nice.

I personally feel the deflect far stronger on the special then on the attack, since the special stays on the map for a bit of time you've got the possibility to play around with those protective circles the special does offer and you can also increase the area affected by it.

Reading this I agree. I love reflect on atk with melee weapons but with this particular weapon.. I would pass on that.

I got some spear dude chambers and they passed through the deflect effect life it's nothing. Same goes for everything in styx except the poison projectile .. straight line >.<.

Since dmg lacks on atk even if you pump it up to the max... I can see athena being better there. Or some synergy effects. Problem with that is you have to hope for your second boon that compliments your atk boon.

But thats the nice thing about this game.. choices.. all these choices.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

I used the beam gun with athena attack after reading this and unlocking it.. and the deflect on it is so useless against crowds that I really regret taking athena atk instead of dash with it. Against bosses.. it was nice but elysium and styx was hell. Literally. Without some form of (strong) aoe .. it gets really hard.

I didnt like it at all, even with chaos atk boon .. but the gun still is nice.

Shrugs. Your mileage may vary then. For even some of the more projectile heavy sections of Elysium, I was able to literally stand there and just hold attack.

No reloads, just rotated.

I actually got annoyed when there WERENT crowds, cause I had to worth about the spearmen and chariots.