Hades
Shmooe Apr 12, 2020 @ 8:30am
I can't give this game a good review because
The 2nd level is just to annoying and ruins all the game play value for me. I give this game about 2 of 5 it would get 4 of 5 but the lava stage is just to annoying. I don't see why the lava has to do so much damage to you. isn't the traps and the enemies enough? on top of that there is constantly fireballs landing on the already way to small platforms that are safe making them just as unsafe as the lave and give you about 30-60% safe walkable area. now the enemies and bosses are taking up 45% of this free space so now that area also causes damage which leave either NO safe space to fight or not even close enough space to fight without taking damage. the next 4 levels are easier then the 2nd level...why? even the next 2 bosses are easier then the snake ONLY because of the lava and fire. I take roughly 75% of my damage from the lava and fire every run on the 2nd level. Annoying thumbs down until this is resolved.

p.s. i'm not hoping for a trap reducing perk to aid me through the lava map that's stupid. the level is just of poor design in my opinion.
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Tiank Apr 12, 2020 @ 8:44am 
It's not a poor design, it's just meant to be hard. It's sad, that you're giving a game a bad review only because you are annoyed at something that's too hard for you in the game. That's the thing - you find this biome hard, but other players would find other biomes, or traps, or enemies harder. All you have to do is to learn how to avoid lava, fireballs, traps and enemies, and to do that, you need to practise. I understand, that you needed to vent, as I'm annoyed at the game sometimes as well, and blaming something else for my bad run (sometimes it is RNG though), but the truth is - the game is well design. It just shows your skill, or lack of thereof, which no one likes to see or experience. So, take a breath, take a short break from the game, try again later and then try and try and you will get better, and once you are comfortable with the lava biome (Asphodel) you will gain the greatest satisfaction of all - overcoming your own weakness. And trust me, it's worth it.
Karundo Apr 12, 2020 @ 8:52am 
I think its kinda harsh to give this excellent game a 2/5, only because you're having trouble on the second biome. I agree that its annoying, but lava is the shtick of the second area - same as traps with Tartarus. You're supposed to adapt your playstyle according to your surroundings.
I agree tho, that its really annoying when the caster shades or medusa heads wander into the lava where you have to sacrifice your hp just to get to them (but even that isnt too bad unless you have +400% trap damage heat turned up).
Honestly, the only thing that should be fixed is Middle management Medusa head mini boss fight and Extreme measures Hydra (maybe not Hydra, but with heat up its still pure chaos).
Ardenian Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Shmooe:
(...)I take roughly 75% of my damage from the lava and fire every run on the 2nd level. Annoying thumbs down until this is resolved.(...)
This sounds very wrong. How do you play? Do you know about dashing, [Space] on keyboard? By combining it with a direction key, you have control about the direction that you dash to.

The fireballs can be avoided by paying attention to its ground markers. Red circles are displayed before the fireballs spawn.
Shmooe Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Tiank:
It's not a poor design, it's just meant to be hard. It's sad, that you're giving a game a bad review only because you are annoyed at something that's too hard for you in the game. That's the thing - you find this biome hard, but other players would find other biomes, or traps, or enemies harder. All you have to do is to learn how to avoid lava, fireballs, traps and enemies, and to do that, you need to practise. I understand, that you needed to vent, as I'm annoyed at the game sometimes as well, and blaming something else for my bad run (sometimes it is RNG though), but the truth is - the game is well design. It just shows your skill, or lack of thereof, which no one likes to see or experience. So, take a breath, take a short break from the game, try again later and then try and try and you will get better, and once you are comfortable with the lava biome (Asphodel) you will gain the greatest satisfaction of all - overcoming your own weakness. And trust me, it's worth it.

you dont seem to understand that sometimes there is no safe place to stand and this game is not all learnable because of the rng factor. im just saying it needs a change to the damage or its just to "hard" if you wanna call having no choice but to dye "hard" i call it something else
Shmooe Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Karundo:
I think its kinda harsh to give this excellent game a 2/5, only because you're having trouble on the second biome. I agree that its annoying, but lava is the shtick of the second area - same as traps with Tartarus. You're supposed to adapt your playstyle according to your surroundings.
I agree tho, that its really annoying when the caster shades or medusa heads wander into the lava where you have to sacrifice your hp just to get to them (but even that isnt too bad unless you have +400% trap damage heat turned up).
Honestly, the only thing that should be fixed is Middle management Medusa head mini boss fight and Extreme measures Hydra (maybe not Hydra, but with heat up its still pure chaos).
i can beat the biome every time its the annoyance of the level that ruins the game play value for me. I just don't think they should be able to randomly throw lava fire balls and stand in the fire and force me to fight them in fire or something.
Shmooe Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by Ardenian:
Originally posted by Shmooe:
(...)I take roughly 75% of my damage from the lava and fire every run on the 2nd level. Annoying thumbs down until this is resolved.(...)
This sounds very wrong. How do you play? Do you know about dashing, [Space] on keyboard? By combining it with a direction key, you have control about the direction that you dash to.

The fireballs can be avoided by paying attention to its ground markers. Red circles are displayed before the fireballs spawn.
lol they dont land on me honestly only the bosses really damage my guy. the normal mobs are pretty easy. I understand dash. i can make it consistaly to minotar and his buddy with 2 extra lives. its when they throw 10 fire balls all over the map and no safe ground to stand on. Its simply just annoying beause it happens to often and the map is already to small. also this does not mean i lost 75%of 100% health this mean is i get hit 4 times 3 of those hits are from lava
Last edited by Shmooe; Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:42am
Lord Nightcrest Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:29am 
The fact that you have trouble dealing with something as static, non-reactive, scriptless, non-behavioral and perfectly predictable as lava is pretty telling.

If this was WoW, you would be that melee dps that every single healer hates.
squat_instructor Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:36am 
You could have given your negative review and be done with it but it seems like your goal is to make a show out of it and you're not really open to changing your mind. Is that what it's about?

I just don't think you realize how basic and bizzare your complaint is compared to the rest of the content. Even on the scale of traps lava is among the least dangerous.

Seems to me like your goal is to make a farce, nothing else.
Last edited by squat_instructor; Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:38am
Shmooe Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by Sailor_seller:
You could have given your negative review and be done with it but it seems like your goal is to make a show out of it and you're not really open to changing your mind. Is that what it's about?

I just don't think you realize how basic and bizzare your complaint is compared to the rest of the content. Even on the scale of traps lava is among the least dangerous.

Seems to me like your goal is to make a farce, nothing else.
its pretty simple the one aspect of the game that annoys me i talked about. I stated my mind on the issue and my foot is down and no i wont change my mind until it is fixed
Shmooe Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Lord Nightcrest:
The fact that you have trouble dealing with something as static, non-reactive, scriptless, non-behavioral and perfectly predictable as lava is pretty telling.

If this was WoW, you would be that melee dps that every single healer hates.
idk wow never played it i have a life :P but as far as this game goes if its all those things you said then they should have no issue fixing it.
Last edited by Shmooe; Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:45am
squat_instructor Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:47am 
well it is fairly blatant then and you're not even hiding it, don't expect to be taken seriously
Ardenian Apr 12, 2020 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Sailor_seller:
(...)

I just don't think you realize how basic and bizzare your complaint is compared to the rest of the content. Even on the scale of traps lava is among the least dangerous.

(...)
Yeah, OP's issue is kinda odd. I think we need screenshots or videos to really tell what is going on here, unless OP is trolling.
Lord Nightcrest Apr 12, 2020 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by Ardenian:
Originally posted by Sailor_seller:
(...)

I just don't think you realize how basic and bizzare your complaint is compared to the rest of the content. Even on the scale of traps lava is among the least dangerous.

(...)
Yeah, OP's issue is kinda odd. I think we need screenshots or videos to really tell what is going on here, unless OP is trolling.

He is standing on cr@p that will kill him over-time if he does not react.

What pearls of wisdom is it expected to be extracted from that? -___-
Butt Buttson Apr 12, 2020 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by Shmooe:
I give this game about 2 of 5 it would get 4 of 5 but the lava stage is just to annoying.

So 2/5 score cause lava does dmg? I really hope I get to read comments from those, if any, who find this review helpful xD
C4RNIVOR3 Apr 12, 2020 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by Shmooe:
its pretty simple the one aspect of the game that annoys me i talked about. I stated my mind on the issue and my foot is down and no i wont change my mind until it is fixed
You expect them to "fix" something that is generally a non-issue for most players, except you apparently? Like... I genuinely don't understand your intent here. When I first got to Asphodel, I found the difficulty spike from Tartarus a bit high initially, but that was primarily from the enemies themselves, not the lava, because using the sword it was harder to deal with enemies that are constantly on the move across the map. I can't say the lava itself was ever an issue because it is so hard to miss, unlike a spike trap or something.

If you were complaining about Extreme Measures Hydra specifically, you would have more of a point due to how the arena is and how it legitimately is difficult to avoid stepping in lava in that fight. I honestly never make it through that fight without getting at minimum two instances of lava damage. But your complaint is apparently Asphodel in general? You shouldn't be surprised that people in this thread aren't taking you seriously because it really.... truly does not make sense.

To quote Hypnos, "Ooh, ow, so you got burned down to a crisp out there, standing in lava, right? I know you've got your burning feet and all, but standing in lava, why, I'm not so sure that's a good idea!"
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