Did they put Greek voice acting or at least subtitles?

[Daelight]

Title.

Don't get me wrong, the game was fine but when I see translations in almost any other language in the world except Greek, on a Greek inspired fantasy game, it's making me feel weird. Haven't played since January, I think, was wondering what they did with the updates, I checked the few recent ones in the game's page and didn't see anything about Greek translation, kind of curious.

[Lord Nightcrest]

I had similar thoughts on the matter. I guess there's no community volunteer yet to oversee the translation. I would personally love to help, but my English vocabulary is far more extensive than my Greek one. :/

[Daelight]

Originally posted by Lord Nightcrest:

I had similar thoughts on the matter. I guess there's no community volunteer yet to oversee the translation. I would personally love to help, but my English vocabulary is far more extensive than my Greek one. :/

Thing is, I am Greek, and I can definitely sit down and translate most of the parts if not the whole game, but since I am not a professional and can't/won't ask for a compensation, the last time I offered to do something like that for free on their Discord server, everyone downvoted the hell out of me like I said the worst thing ever and devs ignored my statement entirely, which, in turn, makes me demotivated to even bother to do so, I don't like attitude.

The more I think and remember about it, the more I realize my experience in the Discord server was not the best. lmao

The game is fine and I really liked it, some things are very weird though and I have noticed devs took some liberty on designs and relationship aspects, but I think the game is really worth it. I just wish the community wasn't as toxic and devs could care a bit more for something like a Greek translation at least which would make more sense to have than anything else. It's like, making a game based in Scandinavian mythology and having languages like French, Italian, Turkish and not Swedish or Finnish, etc.

[Lord Nightcrest]

I get you. I'm Greek as well. The problem is that I have lived for decades abroad, so... my Greek vocabulary has decayed dramatically. I can speak it, I can read it, but when it comes to writing, the words just don't come to mind anymore.

I don't think discord is the place to have a legitimate conversation of any real substance and importance. No forum is. Forums are meant to give voice to all the people but the majority of the people should just remain silent because they have nothing constructive to offer.

If you really feel passionate about it, you could send a direct e-mail to the devs I guess. :)

[lifetake]

Originally posted by Noel Auditore:

Originally posted by Lord Nightcrest:

I had similar thoughts on the matter. I guess there's no community volunteer yet to oversee the translation. I would personally love to help, but my English vocabulary is far more extensive than my Greek one. :/

Thing is, I am Greek, and I can definitely sit down and translate most of the parts if not the whole game, but since I am not a professional and can't/won't ask for a compensation, the last time I offered to do something like that for free on their Discord server, everyone downvoted the hell out of me like I said the worst thing ever and devs ignored my statement entirely, which, in turn, makes me demotivated to even bother to do so, I don't like attitude.

The more I think and remember about it, the more I realize my experience in the Discord server was not the best. lmao

The game is fine and I really liked it, some things are very weird though and I have noticed devs took some liberty on designs and relationship aspects, but I think the game is really worth it. I just wish the community wasn't as toxic and devs could care a bit more for something like a Greek translation at least which would make more sense to have than anything else. It's like, making a game based in Scandinavian mythology and having languages like French, Italian, Turkish and not Swedish or Finnish, etc.

Something to realize is that one they are an indie studio so no Greek voice acting isn't going to happen the funds are just not something easily achievable to pull something off like that. Especially since they like to do their VA in house with their own employees. Secondly, when it comes to base translation the game is in early access and translating the game into Greek which isn't as wide as other languages is more bottom of the barrel especially since the game dialogue may change as the game is developed. So the biggest languages are what the game will be in for now to keep the popularity of the game up world wide but adding a translation in greek is just difficult to pro con out in the game current state

[C4RNIVOR3]

Originally posted by Noel Auditore:

I just wish the community wasn't as toxic

When was this? Granted I only hang around a few specific channels but I lurk the server pretty regularly and don't see this toxicity you're claiming. If it was just in the feedback channel, there's really no point in seeking actual criticism in a channel designed for people to drop opinions at a whim that others can vote on based on kneejerk reactions.

Originally posted by Lord Nightcrest:

I don't think discord is the place to have a legitimate conversation of any real substance and importance. No forum is. Forums are meant to give voice to all the people but the majority of the people should just remain silent because they have nothing constructive to offer.

I was with you at first but this implies that forums can't be a place of valid discussion at all, which is a false generalization. A structured forum can absolutely foster critical discussion and thought provoking conversation. Steam is not a structured forum. Discord is not a forum at all. Discord is essentially a customizable group chat. While you can have serious discussion through discord, the very nature of the platform makes it inherently difficult because it was never meant to act as a forum.


That aside though, I do agree with perhaps contacting the team through email (contact info @ their website). Again, as Discord is essentially a gigantic group chat, it's hard to tackle worthwhile topics without someone derailing. However, last I saw, they were not looking for translators for other languages at the current time, but there is this to take into consideration

Q: I want to translate Hades in a language other than the ones you have listed. How do I do that?
A: Unfortunately, we currently cannot support additional languages other than the ones we have listed. However, please get in touch with us via email and let us know what's on your mind in this regard, so we can keep the feedback in mind as we move forward. We expect to consider additional language options after our v1.0 launch (planned for sometime in 2020).

[Daelight]

Originally posted by C4RNIVOR3:

Originally posted by Noel Auditore:

I just wish the community wasn't as toxic

When was this? Granted I only hang around a few specific channels but I lurk the server pretty regularly and don't see this toxicity you're claiming. If it was just in the feedback channel, there's really no point in seeking actual criticism in a channel designed for people to drop opinions at a whim that others can vote on based on kneejerk reactions.

^
It was around January on the feedback with the voting system, I think somewhere around there.

[Daelight]

Originally posted by lifetake:

Originally posted by Noel Auditore:

Thing is, I am Greek, and I can definitely sit down and translate most of the parts if not the whole game, but since I am not a professional and can't/won't ask for a compensation, the last time I offered to do something like that for free on their Discord server, everyone downvoted the hell out of me like I said the worst thing ever and devs ignored my statement entirely, which, in turn, makes me demotivated to even bother to do so, I don't like attitude.

The more I think and remember about it, the more I realize my experience in the Discord server was not the best. lmao

The game is fine and I really liked it, some things are very weird though and I have noticed devs took some liberty on designs and relationship aspects, but I think the game is really worth it. I just wish the community wasn't as toxic and devs could care a bit more for something like a Greek translation at least which would make more sense to have than anything else. It's like, making a game based in Scandinavian mythology and having languages like French, Italian, Turkish and not Swedish or Finnish, etc.

Something to realize is that one they are an indie studio so no Greek voice acting isn't going to happen the funds are just not something easily achievable to pull something off like that. Especially since they like to do their VA in house with their own employees. Secondly, when it comes to base translation the game is in early access and translating the game into Greek which isn't as wide as other languages is more bottom of the barrel especially since the game dialogue may change as the game is developed. So the biggest languages are what the game will be in for now to keep the popularity of the game up world wide but adding a translation in greek is just difficult to pro con out in the game current state

I get the reasoning, still sucks to be fair.

[Daelight]

Originally posted by Lord Nightcrest:

I get you. I'm Greek as well. The problem is that I have lived for decades abroad, so... my Greek vocabulary has decayed dramatically. I can speak it, I can read it, but when it comes to writing, the words just don't come to mind anymore.

I don't think discord is the place to have a legitimate conversation of any real substance and importance. No forum is. Forums are meant to give voice to all the people but the majority of the people should just remain silent because they have nothing constructive to offer.

If you really feel passionate about it, you could send a direct e-mail to the devs I guess. :)

I may try this out then, hopefully a dev will reply or at least be interested.

[C4RNIVOR3]

Originally posted by lifetake:

Something to realize is that one they are an indie studio so no Greek voice acting isn't going to happen the funds are just not something easily achievable to pull something off like that.

None of the other languages are voice acted. All current languages use the English audio, with translated text.

translating the game into Greek which isn't as wide as other languages is more bottom of the barrel

😬😬😬😬😬 This is a really terrible thing to say, yikes.

[Daelight]

Originally posted by C4RNIVOR3:

Originally posted by lifetake:

Something to realize is that one they are an indie studio so no Greek voice acting isn't going to happen the funds are just not something easily achievable to pull something off like that.

None of the other languages are voice acted. All current languages use the English audio, with translated text.

translating the game into Greek which isn't as wide as other languages is more bottom of the barrel

😬😬😬😬😬 This is a really terrible thing to say, yikes. :monsteroof:

I suppose..... :


Interface Full Audio Subtitles
English ✔ ✔ ✔
French ✔ ✔
Italian ✔ ✔
German ✔ ✔
Spanish - Spain ✔ ✔
Korean ✔ ✔
Portuguese - Brazil ✔ ✔
Russian ✔ ✔
Simplified Chinese ✔ ✔
Polish

So, let me get this straight, in a Greek inspired / themed fantasy game like Hades, it is normal and not considered a bottom of a barrel, if we have languages like Polish, Russian, Korean, Spanish, Italian, German, French, etc, but Greek is the problem, huh? I don't know from what universe this person came from, but in this universe these languages are equally - if not less - NON* wide known to the world and last time I checked, they are not considered National Language, only American English as far as I know, and that not giving crap to the countries and the languages, every language is different and special, but I can't stand seeing bs like "Greek is a bottom barrel of a language" garbage talk.

^This comment is not aimed at you btw, Carnivore, it is aimed to lifetake, which, I still try to get the reasoning, but it sucks bad.

[C4RNIVOR3]

you're better off quoting the post you meant to reply to haha.

Originally posted by Noel Auditore:

It was around January on the feedback with the voting system, I think somewhere around there.

Again, the feedback channel isn't really worth taking seriously because it's set up for people to drop anything that crosses their mind, and votes are reactionary. It's not meant to be seen as a form of discussion because people will naturally up or downvote based simply on whether they personally like an idea or not, which is the entire idea behind the feedback channel since it moves so fast.

If you have a serious desire to see Greek translation added, you're better off trying to inquire through email rather than #Feedback. I think for now SGG focused on some of the more prevalent languages, which is fair. But as I posted further up, there is a section in their translation FAQ that states they may consider additional languages after launch. All you can do is contact them, or hope Greg pops in here with a more detailed response.

[lifetake]

Originally posted by Noel Auditore:

Originally posted by C4RNIVOR3:

None of the other languages are voice acted. All current languages use the English audio, with translated text.


😬😬😬😬😬 This is a really terrible thing to say, yikes. :monsteroof:

I suppose..... :


Interface Full Audio Subtitles
English ✔ ✔ ✔
French ✔ ✔
Italian ✔ ✔
German ✔ ✔
Spanish - Spain ✔ ✔
Korean ✔ ✔
Portuguese - Brazil ✔ ✔
Russian ✔ ✔
Simplified Chinese ✔ ✔
Polish

So, let me get this straight, in a Greek inspired / themed fantasy game like Hades, it is normal and not considered a bottom of a barrel, if we have languages like Polish, Russian, Korean, Spanish, Italian, German, French, etc, but Greek is the problem, huh? I don't know from what universe this person came from, but in this universe these languages are equally - if not less - NON* wide known to the world and last time I checked, they are not considered National Language, only American English as far as I know, and that not giving crap to the countries and the languages, every language is different and special, but I can't stand seeing bs like "Greek is a bottom barrel of a language" garbage talk.

^This comment is not aimed at you btw, Carnivore, it is aimed to lifetake, which, I still try to get the reasoning, but it sucks bad.

Every language in this list is more widely spoken than Greek. I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about this game having Greek, but yes the game in an early access state does not need to have Greek as a language. I'm not saying Greek isn't a important language I'm saying from a business perspective Greek is not as big a language as all of these other languages at 13.4 million speakers. The game is in early access and yes the game is Greek themed doesn't mean it has to now or ever for that matter be in the game. Greek subtitles wouldn't do anything for the game but give access to Greek speakers. And if you're only doing it for Greek speakers then you're only doing it for audience thus all the other languages are ahead as stated.

So no don't pretend like Greek being more bottomed barrel is BS. It makes sense especially given this is a indie studio. I know you say you get the reasoning but the call back portrays that to be incorrect.

[Lord Nightcrest]

Originally posted by C4RNIVOR3:

I was with you at first but this implies that forums can't be a place of valid discussion at all, which is a false generalization. A structured forum can absolutely foster critical discussion and thought provoking conversation. Steam is not a structured forum. Discord is not a forum at all. Discord is essentially a customizable group chat. While you can have serious discussion through discord, the very nature of the platform makes it inherently difficult because it was never meant to act as a forum.

Honestly, I don't know what I meant to say exactly... >_>?

I have shιtty experiences with discord, reddit, wikias, etc. with their holier-than-thou self-policing garbage policies but "Forum" was definitely the wrong word.

Forums such as the one we are chatting through right now are perfectly fine and everyone should have a voice here because we keep it respectful, but in other places where mob mentality prevails, most people should just shut the hell up.

[kid_zomb]

Hey, thank you for the feedback here.

The voiceover in Hades is English-only. We have no plans for alternate voiceover languages. We are still completing the English-language content as part of our Early Access development, adding many hundreds of new voice lines in each of our Major Updates.

While Hades is inspired by Greek myth, it takes place in an ancient time and with characters who would not natively speak modern Greek, or any existing language. Given this, using English made sense to us, as our studio's native language; it allowed us to develop a speaking style for each character that made sense to us in the context of our world.

Greek is not one of the text languages we are currently supporting. We expect to consider additional language options after our v1.0 launch, planned for sometime later this year. We appreciate your understanding.

[love-less_beloved]

The only alternate language voice over I want to see is in Ancient Greek. Anything else would be inaccurrate and blasphemous.