Ranking the Olympians

[PhattDamon]

My personal ranking after about 100 attempts is

1: Artemis
2: Ares
3: Zeus
4: Demeter
5: Hermes
6: Athena
7: Aphrodite
8: Poseidon
9: Dionysus

Thoughts?

[abarax]

You listed Hermes twice. Which one is supposed to be Demeter?

[PhattDamon]

Originally posted by abarax:

You listed Hermes twice. Which one is supposed to be Demeter?

4 sorry, fixed it

[Dark Sora Dragonvine]

I for one love Dionysus. His poison abilities can stack to crazy levels, plus Premium Vintage is always nice when you're working on leveling relationships or just need to trade goods

[Tricheur]

You underestimate the power of Aphrodite. Her "love missile" cancel every Hades attack, she can lower the ennemies damage and there is a way to have a chance to charm on attack, which make Hades a tanky pawn because he doesnt attack anymore. She's really number 1, and Demeter is too stronk atm, number 2.

Plus, it depends of the weapon. Dionysos with the machine gun or the bow is like top 3, with the Guanyu spear on charged attack too.

Of course, it's your way to see it :) But it depend on a lot of criters.

But if we have to rank, i'll be more like

1. Aphrodite
2. Demeter
3. Athena
3 ex aequo. Artemis
5. Hermes
6. Dionysos
7. Zeus
8. Ares
9. Poseidon

And even at the bottom, Poseidon played with charge and splash damage is crazy insane, plus the zeus duo with him ...

(sorry for my english, hope it's understable :) )

[Lord Nightcrest]

"S" Tier

1. Athena
2. Zeus
3. Demeter
4. Artemis

"OK" Tier

55. Aphrodite
56. Hermes

"Pls no, just no!" Tier

967. Poseidon
968. Ares

"Are you kidding me game???" Tier

38274. Dionysus

[abarax]

Every time I see rankings like this I basically can't see a completely fair way to do it. My rankings might look something like.

Demeter, Aphro, Athena, artemis, Hermes, Zeus, Posidon, Dio, Ares

Demeter boons are good for most builds. - strong offense and useful debuffs. Chill good for fast and slow builds (I'm thinking of the boon that makes an explosion after reaching 10 stacks. Just don't like her cast.
Aphrodite I believe is currently strongest raw damage increase wise, has useful debuff and other boons that build off it.
Athena has decent damage increase but the deflect effect can be quite good. Some of her later boons are more situational (exposed, DD refill), but her legendary is pretty good.
Artemis can have mathematically better damage increases than the first two but depends a lot on the crit chance (so some weapons better than others). Her cast is good, supporting boons are ok, but her legendary is specific to a certain kind of build. Has good damage duos based on critical damage and crit chance.
Hermes (if you count him) is a strong game changer - extra dashes, attack speed, or movement speed can work wonders. I've been saved multiple times by more dashes/dodge chance before. Second Wind can be nice. I haven't been able to use his newer boons much.

The rest I don't find myself wanting to pick especially, but depending on how much you invest into them they can become really good.

Zeus works badly with slower attacks (e.g. instead of +x% damage he has +y damage, which depending on the weapon can be equivalent to a +100% damage increase: that is, zag railgun with Zeus attack and support fire [can work out to be around +200% dmg] can be bettere than zag railgun with Demeter +40% common boon, even with Arctic Blast). The deeper you go into Zeus, I feel he gets exponentially better - Jolted is very good, call very good, legendary quite nice especially when augmented with double strike etc., which turns a +10 damage common lightning strike into multiple bolts with lasting effects.

Similar for Poseidon. I hesitate to pick him at first but he has strong disruptive boons. I don't particularly feel his debuff though, usually prefer something more useful like weak. Knockback can be a hindrance sometimes (esp on Tight Deadline) but it works well with some builds. Other than that his duos with Zeus and Demeter are very strong. I don't pick him enough to feel completely confident in saying this though.

Dionysis is the same again. Possibly the most niche of the last few. Poison isn't particularly strong compared to some of the other debuffs but it is good with faster multihit attacks. His other supporting boons are not super bad, and Trippy Shot (whatever it is called now) opens up a few niche but strong builds, mixed with Ice Wine and Scint Feast - good with Pos sword and Hera bow. His legendary is very specific and I actually didn't encounter it until a long way in.

As much as I love Ares I don't feel he is in a super good spot. To be good, both Blade Rift and Doom need to be invested in. Urge to Kill is pretty much insignificant. Battle Rage (whichever one is +150% dmg after killing someone) is not bad. But going deep on Blade Rift (paired with Artemis) can make some extremely strong room clearers and boss killers. Legendary is very specific but very very strong. You basically need to plan ahead to get it from very early on.

TLDR: Some are obviously worse than others, but it depends on weapon aspect/playstyle, and how much you invest into them.

[Lorska]

For me personally I would rank gods by consistency.

Hermes doesn't even count imo, because he doesn't compete with anything. The only way he breaks a run is of you get over a certain threshold of invulnerability/sustain/speed so unless you get some high rarity boons he just exists. Again, he doesn't interfere with any strategies though.

This is what mine would look like:
1. Aphrodite - damage reduction, health and incredible damage multipliers
2. Demeter - less damage reduction, less healing, less multipliers but a worse Aphrodite is still damn good
3 Artemis - enables certain strategies, reliance on crit chance can be bad but making crits against 2+ enemies reliable is super strong
4. Dionysus - requires build around and lots of poms, extra health and high damage reduction so fantastic support
5. Athena - outside of reflective dash the only thing she offers is minor damage reduction and some cheese strategies with few attacks (thanks to Hermes/Hammer upgrades)
6. Zeus - extremely weapon dependent and the low range on everything makes him way too reliant on duo boons or very specific combos. Awful supportive properties outside of duos/self-synergy.
7. Ares - in order to be good requires to be picked up multiple times and getting his synergy boons while at it. Extremely inconsistent and basically no worth as support choice.
8. Poseidon - basically just down here because the extra resources can show up multiple times which often limits his boon choices to two. He just gets the short end of the stick with lowish damage dots, lowish multipliers and knockback being situational at best. By far my most picked "bad" god though due to him not diluting your boon upgrade choices and free stuff being cool.

[Scilin]

the problem is your rating a general tier category on each god, you need to rate each boon independently and even then youd need things like if chiron bow aspect S tier if not b tier etc. to have a remotely viable tier listing

[Lorska]

Originally posted by Scilin:

the problem is your rating a general tier category on each god, you need to rate each boon independently and even then youd need things like if chiron bow aspect S tier if not b tier etc. to have a remotely viable tier listing

I don't think that's necessary. You can just look at how many weapons/aspects are viable with a certain god and how valuable picks are with just a few boon picks.

For example, Dio requires some fast hitting attack/special while things like Aphro's weakness works on anything. And Poseidon has a diluted boon pool no matter what you pick.

[Scilin]

Originally posted by Lorska:

Originally posted by Scilin:

the problem is your rating a general tier category on each god, you need to rate each boon independently and even then youd need things like if chiron bow aspect S tier if not b tier etc. to have a remotely viable tier listing

I don't think that's necessary. You can just look at how many weapons/aspects are viable with a certain god and how valuable picks are with just a few boon picks.

For example, Dio requires some fast hitting attack/special while things like Aphro's weakness works on anything. And Poseidon has a diluted boon pool no matter what you pick.

Comnpletely disagree, Poseidon has one of the strongest casts around knockback plus big aoe, ability to add on rupture or any attack boon with him once you factor in duo boons you can get high damage high knockback jolt/rupture simultaneousely some of my best runs are poseidon based, granted im only pushing heat 20 territory but with a bit of focus poseidon is straight up beast mode, also while the splash and knockback into barriers seem useless in styx its straight screen is dead easy mode

[Lorska]

It's fine to disagree but you simply evaluated it differently. There's nothing correct or wrong about it, I just value consistency above anything else.

To get back to your point, yes there sure is merit into ranking them like that as long as you go into detail what your criteria are. But it's not required to do it on a per weapon per aspect basis.

[D'zen]

Ares is really a mad lad for me. Not even because of those huge explosion damage effects, but because of those spinning knifes. I killed main boss without using any attacks, just spamming dodge and bloodstones. With enough of luck you can increase the aoe of this by 30%+, get the effect of 1 more damage per hit by abilities with those knifes.

[Wintermute]

I can't put them into any coherent ranking, because, ultimately, any god has good stuff in his stash.

My least liked is probably Demeter. I just don't understand how to use her kit.

Athena, generally, also only has 3 good boons, 2 of which are reliant on Ares doom build. DR, deflect-dash and Ares dual-boon.

I absolutely dig Aphrodite and Poseidon though. Aphrodite's cumulative damage reduction is insane, and Poseidon, with a bit of luck in chaining his boons, completely breaks any melee weapon you attach him to.

[Lord Nightcrest]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

I absolutely dig Aphrodite and Poseidon though. Aphrodite's cumulative damage reduction is insane, and Poseidon, with a bit of luck in chaining his boons, completely breaks any melee weapon you attach him to.

I don't mind going deep into Aphrodite (giggity?), but it all comes down to gameplay preference.

For me Dio, Pos & Ares are big no-nos. Are they useful in builds that I don't play? Definitely! Am I ever gonna pick them unless I have a shotgun pointing at my face? No...

[Scilin]

At this point id say every god has do this really cool thing potential and ultimately thats just good game design lots of options keep it interesting still at 100+ clears (Yeah I know im not over 200 clears yet X_x)