Hades
HeroLune Feb 27, 2020 @ 7:51am
Fated Authority
so i have recently unlocked this perk after maxing the rest of the mirror and i got pretty disappointed 36 key 1000 darkness to get 1 re-roll that you can use once per run, so out of curiosity i cheked the wiki and i discovered that you need over 160k darkness to max it out just to get 10 uses
to be honest it looks rether useless to me, you need to grind a lot to max it out but probably never gonna use that since the pact of punishment can lock your mirror at 2500 darkness and i doubt some one would spend their point with this perk, not to speak about hellmode where you are locked at 2500 darkness from the very beginning
This perk would be much better if it caps at 3 stack for 2500 darkness (maybe 1lvl:300 2lvl:700 3lvl:1500) and making you able to use the re-roll once per floor not once per run, because right now it feel just like something to throw your excessive darkness since you are unable to spend it other way than the mirror
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Salmoni Feb 27, 2020 @ 8:33am 
It's not to be grinded, is to give the darkness you still take on your run's a little meaning, it's the only sink we have for darkness atm
HeroLune Feb 27, 2020 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Salmoni:
It's not to be grinded, is to give the darkness you still take on your run's a little meaning, it's the only sink we have for darkness atm
I just hope that someday they give us a darkness store to buy key, gems, abrosia etc and make the perk more viable for high heat/hellmode run instead of making it a literally darkness trashcan
Barely Cuda Feb 27, 2020 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by HeroLune:
Originally posted by Salmoni:
It's not to be grinded, is to give the darkness you still take on your run's a little meaning, it's the only sink we have for darkness atm
I just hope that someday they give us a darkness store to buy key, gems, abrosia etc and make the perk more viable for high heat/hellmode run instead of making it a literally darkness trashcan
Work is being done to Darkness in next update in 2 weeks. Along with the FInal main weapon being released.
Morton Koopa Jr. Feb 27, 2020 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Salmoni:
It's not to be grinded, is to give the darkness you still take on your run's a little meaning, it's the only sink we have for darkness atm

This lol. It is an easy way to throw excessive darkness at.

But as the other guy said, they're adding more uses for it.
Morton Koopa Jr. Feb 27, 2020 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by HeroLune:
Originally posted by Salmoni:
It's not to be grinded, is to give the darkness you still take on your run's a little meaning, it's the only sink we have for darkness atm
I just hope that someday they give us a darkness store to buy key, gems, abrosia etc and make the perk more viable for high heat/hellmode run instead of making it a literally darkness trashcan

By the time darkness doesn't matter, you don't really need to buy keys gems or ambrosia lol
HeroLune Feb 27, 2020 @ 1:56pm 


Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:
Originally posted by HeroLune:
I just hope that someday they give us a darkness store to buy key, gems, abrosia etc and make the perk more viable for high heat/hellmode run instead of making it a literally darkness trashcan

By the time darkness doesn't matter, you don't really need to buy keys gems or ambrosia lol
well you can convert key and gems into titan blood and ambrosia but if have everything maxed out any currency become useless :p
lifetake Feb 27, 2020 @ 4:36pm 
budget cuts is not something mandatory to run in hell mode and I strongly prefer staying away from budget cuts in my heat usage so darkness upgrades are way more useful in that aspect.

As well the fated authority ability is incredibly good. Being able to reroll god boons to other ones to customize your run is incredibly impactful. If you believe that taking the gods keepsakes is good to help your run (which you should) then you should also beleive that the ability to reroll off god boons you don't want is also strong.
Jacobella Feb 27, 2020 @ 4:51pm 
I always reroll Pom rooms since I prefer Upgrades or Boons or Hearts or Upgrades
lifetake Feb 27, 2020 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by Jacobella:
I always reroll Pom rooms since I prefer Upgrades or Boons or Hearts or Upgrades
One thing to note is when comes to poms to boons you aren't ever insured that. However if you hit a boss boon room you can reroll the boon to another completely insured
Jacobella Feb 27, 2020 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by lifetake:
Originally posted by Jacobella:
I always reroll Pom rooms since I prefer Upgrades or Boons or Hearts or Upgrades
One thing to note is when comes to poms to boons you aren't ever insured that. However if you hit a boss boon room you can reroll the boon to another completely insured
Very cool, I did not know this

Now I can keep gods that cramp my style out of my build
HeroLune Feb 27, 2020 @ 5:19pm 
Originally posted by lifetake:
budget cuts is not something mandatory to run in hell mode and I strongly prefer staying away from budget cuts in my heat usage so darkness upgrades are way more useful in that aspect.

As well the fated authority ability is incredibly good. Being able to reroll god boons to other ones to customize your run is incredibly impactful. If you believe that taking the gods keepsakes is good to help your run (which you should) then you should also beleive that the ability to reroll off god boons you don't want is also strong.

being able to reroll is really impactful my point in the main thread was that i feel the perk need too much darkness to be even considered in a budget cuts high heat run/hell mode even the first lvl of death defiance costs 30 FA starts instead at 1000 mine were just suggestion to make the perk a little more viable for the future
lifetake Feb 27, 2020 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by HeroLune:
Originally posted by lifetake:
budget cuts is not something mandatory to run in hell mode and I strongly prefer staying away from budget cuts in my heat usage so darkness upgrades are way more useful in that aspect.

As well the fated authority ability is incredibly good. Being able to reroll god boons to other ones to customize your run is incredibly impactful. If you believe that taking the gods keepsakes is good to help your run (which you should) then you should also beleive that the ability to reroll off god boons you don't want is also strong.

being able to reroll is really impactful my point in the main thread was that i feel the perk need too much darkness to be even considered in a budget cuts high heat run/hell mode even the first lvl of death defiance costs 30 FA starts instead at 1000 mine were just suggestion to make the perk a little more viable for the future
Well another thing that exists is that you can get a non darkness upgrade (comes from contractor) that gives you a use of the fated authority for every key you get. Thus the mechanic still exists but starting off supply is limited by budget cuts.

There is a upgrade for each basic resource type (darkness, gems, keys, and nectar) each give a different thing.
CarThief Feb 28, 2020 @ 2:41am 
Huh, guess i'm not the only one who rerolls the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pom of Power rooms into something else (which'll either be a Heart, or a random Boon, it seems). Why upgrade something for like a measely 5-10 extra damage when you can have an extra boon whose effects far outweigh the Pom and that may very well synergize with your build!? Even the health upgrade is nice, as it means you restore more from Death Defiance, if i remember right.

It is a bit sucky, yes, that Fated Authority only adds +1 to it for that cost, but if you really want a reliable source of it, get the upgrade at the Contractor that makes it so for any Key you pick up, you get +1 Fated Authority.

Always nice to reroll forced Pom of Power rooms with, or when it's that or a store (which i don't need anymore since i just spend all my money i've hoarded at the Styx store for a Diamond or Titan Blood).
Morton Koopa Jr. Feb 28, 2020 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by HeroLune:
Originally posted by lifetake:
budget cuts is not something mandatory to run in hell mode and I strongly prefer staying away from budget cuts in my heat usage so darkness upgrades are way more useful in that aspect.

As well the fated authority ability is incredibly good. Being able to reroll god boons to other ones to customize your run is incredibly impactful. If you believe that taking the gods keepsakes is good to help your run (which you should) then you should also beleive that the ability to reroll off god boons you don't want is also strong.

being able to reroll is really impactful my point in the main thread was that i feel the perk need too much darkness to be even considered in a budget cuts high heat run/hell mode even the first lvl of death defiance costs 30 FA starts instead at 1000 mine were just suggestion to make the perk a little more viable for the future

I would say it's too impactful and all this rerolling would kill the point of the game.
CDI Mario Mar 5, 2020 @ 9:49pm 
Originally posted by Cuda:
Originally posted by HeroLune:
I just hope that someday they give us a darkness store to buy key, gems, abrosia etc and make the perk more viable for high heat/hellmode run instead of making it a literally darkness trashcan
Work is being done to Darkness in next update in 2 weeks. Along with the FInal main weapon being released.
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Date Posted: Feb 27, 2020 @ 7:51am
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