Hades
l-xXx-l Nov 30, 2019 @ 11:52pm
Question about pricing
so, we are 1 year already from releasing in ea, if I'm not wrong, at start game has one pricing at egs, then with time it was raised, I care only about what pricing you are thinking to go on steam and why, thanks.
Last edited by l-xXx-l; Dec 1, 2019 @ 6:51pm
Originally posted by It's Dunk:
A loyalty bonus for owners of previous Supergiant games would be a welcome surprise. :squirtyay:
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PsychoDino Dec 2, 2019 @ 11:01pm 
price will also probably go up when game is out of EA
kid_zomb  [developer] Dec 3, 2019 @ 12:04am 
Hey, please stay tuned for specifics about pricing when we launch in Steam Early Access this coming week. Thank you for your patience around this -- we'll have more info soon.
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It's Dunk Dec 3, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
A loyalty bonus for owners of previous Supergiant games would be a welcome surprise. :squirtyay:
Tizzy Dec 3, 2019 @ 9:26pm 
Since most storefronts demand price parity (and I believe Steam is among them,) it's a safe bet it'll cost the same as it does in Epic. As somebody else suggested, tho, owners of existing Supergiant titles might be eligible for a discount (but we don't really have any info on that.)
tommy_beast Dec 3, 2019 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by bblzd.tv:
A loyalty bonus for owners of previous Supergiant games would be a welcome surprise. :squirtyay:
+ for epic-exlusivity-waiting bonus.

Supergiant have to try super hard to sell the game here. They screwed up, but they can still make things work.
5 Bears On Patrol Dec 3, 2019 @ 11:08pm 
If it's a year old it should be at least 30% off.
PsychoDino Dec 4, 2019 @ 12:28am 
Originally posted by tommy_beast:
Originally posted by bblzd.tv:
A loyalty bonus for owners of previous Supergiant games would be a welcome surprise. :squirtyay:
+ for epic-exlusivity-waiting bonus.

Supergiant have to try super hard to sell the game here. They screwed up, but they can still make things work.
would be a good way to appease the community who supergiant has alienated
Nephi Dec 5, 2019 @ 8:47am 
A few months ago it was $7 on the EGS during their Mega Sale, so you might as well wait until it goes back down to that price.
Wok Dec 5, 2019 @ 9:18am 
Originally posted by Pexpy:
A few months ago it was $7 on the EGS during their Mega Sale, so you might as well wait until it goes back down to that price.

Game has never been $7. Tim Sweeney offered $10 cashback, that is on the store, not the game.
Nephi Dec 5, 2019 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Wok:
Originally posted by Pexpy:
A few months ago it was $7 on the EGS during their Mega Sale, so you might as well wait until it goes back down to that price.

Game has never been $7. Tim Sweeney offered $10 cashback, that is on the store, not the game.

Whether it's Epic or SGG making the game cheaper is just semantics. Hades was available for $7 for a day and $10 for four weeks. If they didn't agree with that they could have removed their game from the store like Paradox and Klei did. Not what they actually did, which was attempt to break both promises and advertising law by increasing the list price of game without notice during a sale.
Wok Dec 5, 2019 @ 9:54am 
So, you also remove $5 from the historical low of every game on Steam, because Valve offered $5 cashback for the Chinese New Year (Lunar sale), right? Or if you get a coupon from Amazon, you consider that the historical low of every item sold by Amazon should be decreased by the amount of the coupon? It doesn't sound very practical to do shopping.

F&F package was offered in an Alienware giveaway, so that people who got it there own every game released by Valve, including future releases at that time, so Artifact and Half-Life Alyx. That means that Half-Life Alyx should never be bought: wait for it to be free!
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Nephi Dec 5, 2019 @ 10:33am 
Depends on the discount but if it's available to just a small group of people as coupons are, then not really.

The Chinese New Year sale discount had to be earned by buying other games. It wasn't something applied to each game separately. It was, if anything, time-limited store credit. Store credit is obviously not a discount, it's just like money for a single store. If I got a $20 steam gift card, I'm not going to think every game under $20 is free.

I've never had a coupon from Amazon, but I've had Steam coupons before - they're rare enough to seem special like say if you won a free game from a contest.

On the other hand coupons are often intentionally part of publisher marketing anyway - like if a new game or enhanced edition comes out, owners of the previous game often get a coupon to incentivize purchases. Or if GMG makes a discount code, as they often do, to apply to all games for all people who just type a code in, that is going to influence my perception of price. Especially if you can guarantee they'll have more codes for future games and events.

All Epic did was slap a big -$10 on everything. This wasn't store credit, this was just a flat price drop. Buy 5 games, you spent $50 less (unless you got banned by buying too many games). There was also nothing to suggest it wouldn't happen again if it wasn't for those two publishers dropping out the store.

The same thing applies to free or bundled games being devalued. "It was given away for free or included in a bundle but I missed it this time so I might as well wait until its in another bundle or a deep discount in a few months."
Nephi Dec 5, 2019 @ 10:49am 
Just seen your edit: This is just a single lottery. It's like saying money is worthless because someone else won the lottery. If they were giving out F&F keys for cheap or just offering them for sale, then that would devalue Valve games going forward. Not that one extra person in the world has a Valve F&F code.

Speaking of HL:A, you have to buy a $1000+ piece of tech to qualify for that free game too. It's safe to suggest that instead of a direct sale price, they decided to absorb some profits to give away something else instead. Imagine instead if the Index was made 5% off - about the price of HL:A. That'd generate about as much PR than having HL:A paired with it... but it'd be mockery instead of praise.

Again, Epic's sale was on for almost an entire month. That's long enough to set expectations, especially when that's a whole 10% of the time Hades ever been available for purchase.
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Overlord1993 Dec 5, 2019 @ 12:45pm 
Will just wait for a 50% sale or something, that's about right after it being released on steam a year late.
kid_zomb  [developer] Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by 5 Bears On Patrol:
If it's a year old it should be at least 30% off.

We appreciate the feedback. For what it's worth, we don't really look at it this way. The way we look at it is, Hades is approximately 3X bigger and substantially better than it was a year ago. We think it's worth more, not less.

If we were offering the same exact game we offered a year ago, I would 100% agree with you (if anything 30% off would be too low). However, we've been actively developing Hades in Early Access, and adding to and improving every aspect. For example, just this week we added more than 2,000 new voice lines to the game to further deepen the story, along with a variety of new and improved systems -- to put that in perspective, Bastion had about 3,700 voice lines in its entirety.

So, rather than thinking of Hades as a year-old game, I hope you'll come to think of it as a new game that keeps getting better while it's in Early Access, until we finally hit our v1.0.
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