The sword needs a buff

[_Chan_]

I have unlocked a couple Aspects for it but still, the ones that get me the farthest on my runs are the bow and the shield. Even with the shield i mostly spam its special and take boons for it. Melee weapons in general seems suck compared to ranged weapons.

Suggestion: Replace its slash-overhead-stab combo attack with blazing fast attack just like the machete form Bastion, increasing its DPS. And maybe "hold attack button" to perform the stab finisher if there are some boons for it so they are still relevant.

[sirtheta]

引用自 Odeum：

You need to do a run(doesn't need to be sucessful, just an attempt) with every weapon once I think. Then you can upgrade your weapons.

You only need to unlock all the weapons (5, currently) then do another run (with any weapon) before aspects become available. For example, I never did a run with the Adamant Rail but I have aspects available.

[dawntorch]

The sword is the fastest weapon in the game but also has the shortest range. I get amazing damage output with a simple combo: dash into enemy for a hit, dash through them, backstab, dash away. I've beaten the game with every weapon and by far my fastest run has been with the sword. I find its titan blood upgrade for running speed most convenient because I dont even have to worry about a dash speed buff for Hades.

[Neon Black Interactive]

I'm currently working on a guide for Stygius though for the time being the best advice I can give is to be more calm and calculated in your attacks. The biggest mistake you can make with Stygius is button mashing. When you button mash with the sword you get locked into animations so you can't move or dodge when you need to and as a result you take unnecessary damage. In my opinion Sytgius is simultaneously the most difficult and the most powerful weapon in terms of damage.

When you find yourself wanting to spam attack take a second to think about whether or not it's really a good idea. I've found much more success taking a step back and thinking through my attacks in advance. Additionally I think the dash attack build is the strongest build for Zagreus or Chiron Aspect simply because the dash attack Daedalus Hammer boon is insane. For Poseidon Aspect you're clearly best off trying to force Artemis with her cast and if you're lucky you can get exit wounds as well as more ammunition.

I pretty much always start with Cosmic Egg on every weapon and hold onto it until Elysium where I usually switch to an Olympian keepsake that I feel like I need in order to get a boon that ties my build together. For my final swap before Styx I take Skellys Tooth if I have both at least two damage taken reduction perks and at least 150 hp. If either of those aren't true I take Eurydices Acorn because I'm absolutely certain at level 3 it provides far more effective hp against Hades than the tooth simply because Hades hits like a truck.

[Trolleur_Durden]

The sword is by far my least successful weapon, but I'm not sure it needs a buff. There's a playstyle for each weapon, and I'm pretty sure everyone has it's own favorite.

[Aumires]

The sword indeed needs an upgrade indeed in my opinion as the spear is a better sword in every aspect and the shield is the best melee weapon by far. Or I haven't upgraded the Nemesis that much and I don't know.

The Poseidon Sword is only worth it as a stat stick and dislodger for Cast builds. It can be really, really fun though to use. It is better than the Hera Bow in my opinion. I indeed have leveled it up and when I tire of gunning down everything it's a neat change of pace.

[Prometheus]

引用自 Urilbedamned：

If either of those aren't true I take Eurydices Acorn because I'm absolutely certain at level 3 it provides far more effective hp against Hades than the tooth simply because Hades hits like a truck.

That damned spear spin's hit box is way too big.

[Neon Black Interactive]

引用自 Promethian：

引用自 Urilbedamned：

If either of those aren't true I take Eurydices Acorn because I'm absolutely certain at level 3 it provides far more effective hp against Hades than the tooth simply because Hades hits like a truck.

That damned spear spin's hit box is way too big.

The spin hit box is pretty manageable if you dodge through Hades to get behind him. When he starts the attack he takes a moment then dashes towards where you were when he began the windup. If you run towards him then dash behind him he'll spin dash away from you so you can avoid it pretty easily if it's the only attack you need to worry about at the moment. If there's other stuff on the screen to worry about though you can definitely get caught in it and it does in fact hit for an insane amount of damage.

[Trolleur_Durden]

The timing ain't easy, but dashing at the exact moment he does his spin attack allows to dodge the damage entirely. But it's somewhat counterintuitive, because the attack foreshadowing that Hades does tends to incite a panic dodge that's always too early. That's why having bonus dashes is extremely useful for that fight.

[RageZp]

FOR SURE

[_Chan_]

To you who have finished the game with the sword, are you playing in God Mode?

Because that one time i beat the first boss in normal mode(farthest i got with the sword), i was using the dash damage and deflect boons. Just dashing around like a madman evading & deflecting attacks and occasionally using special when surrounded. Very minimal incentive for standard (left click) attacks because there was almost no safe opening.

So i feel using the sword i can get far by picking the dash damage and deflect boons, almost no need to use its attacks?. Im not sure i like this playstyle, and any weapon could do that too, not just the sword.

Other than that, i like this game A LOT.

[_Chan_]

引用自 Urilbedamned：

I'm currently working on a guide for Stygius though for the time being the best advice I can give is to be more calm and calculated in your attacks. The biggest mistake you can make with Stygius is button mashing. When you button mash with the sword you get locked into animations so you can't move or dodge when you need to and as a result you take unnecessary damage. In my opinion Sytgius is simultaneously the most difficult and the most powerful weapon in terms of damage.

When you find yourself wanting to spam attack take a second to think about whether or not it's really a good idea. I've found much more success taking a step back and thinking through my attacks in advance. Additionally I think the dash attack build is the strongest build for Zagreus or Chiron Aspect simply because the dash attack Daedalus Hammer boon is insane. For Poseidon Aspect you're clearly best off trying to force Artemis with her cast and if you're lucky you can get exit wounds as well as more ammunition.

I pretty much always start with Cosmic Egg on every weapon and hold onto it until Elysium where I usually switch to an Olympian keepsake that I feel like I need in order to get a boon that ties my build together. For my final swap before Styx I take Skellys Tooth if I have both at least two damage taken reduction perks and at least 150 hp. If either of those aren't true I take Eurydices Acorn because I'm absolutely certain at level 3 it provides far more effective hp against Hades than the tooth simply because Hades hits like a truck.

I'm looking forward to see your guide :)
I think ill level up Poseidon Aspect some more, and see how that work for me.

[dustin1280]

The sword is by far the hardest weapon for me to clear with.
I managed to succeed once I had Poseidon Aspect though, it makes a casting build REALLY good.

You can win with the shield by simply getting poseidon dash and comboing dash with the normal attack. I just beat heat 4 by doing that pretty much alone...

The bow is super safe and has NUMEROUS good build options.

The spear is excellent, great range and it's special is great.

The rail is unique, I have one with it more succesfully then the sword, but it's kind of build dependent...

[Wintermute]

I actually like sword. It's extremely straightforward, very flexible in building due to that, and definitely one of the most damaging weapons in the game. Just need to cope with beeing in melee range via some damage reduction or health restore. My best runs with it were with second aspect and Poseidon's dash.

My personal trash vote goes to bow. There's exactly one build I've managed to make work with it - the alt-fire doom. Even that worked mostly because I got Athena dual-boon for instant doom proc. Every other option suffers from severe lack of mobility, damage and/or clear speed, and the whole thing is horrendously inflexible. If you start getting Poseidon or Aphrodite - you might as well suicide your run and start over.

[SaiColors]

引用自 _Chan_：

To you who have finished the game with the sword, are you playing in God Mode?

Because that one time i beat the first boss in normal mode(farthest i got with the sword), i was using the dash damage and deflect boons. Just dashing around like a madman evading & deflecting attacks and occasionally using special when surrounded. Very minimal incentive for standard (left click) attacks because there was almost no safe opening.

So i feel using the sword i can get far by picking the dash damage and deflect boons, almost no need to use its attacks?. Im not sure i like this playstyle, and any weapon could do that too, not just the sword.

Other than that, i like this game A LOT.

I never play God Mode just play in normal, already use sword beat heat3 hades.

If use nemesis I focus in dash attack and special attack, the combo is simple just special+dash attack*n and loop.

You can use keepsake "Broken Spearpoint" in 3rd/4th area it really helps a lot avoiding damage.

And dash attack on sword is the most smooth/easy to use, has Double Edge making it hit twice too.
You can check other player using it on youtube, for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etZficqoBf4
You don't really need to dodge all the attacks, you barely have no time to dodge when playing heat with Tight Deadline which has time limit.

[Trolleur_Durden]

I don't play in God mod, and my two successful runs with the sword were both involving crazy good boon options and a lot of mirror bonus. It definitely felt a win despite the weapon shortcomings. However, I've never tried a caster build with Poseidon aspect, so that's definitely something I'll try next time I pick this weapon.

I'm not gonna derail the topic into the merits of the bow, simply say that this weapon's builds are heavily tied to getting Daedalus boons, because some of them are crazy good and change drastically this weapon's playstyle.