Do EGS owners get a Steam key?

[👽🐬 Old Black Nerd🐬👽]

We honestly should, because we beta tested it there and helped you out despite the EGS exclusivity

[Dinger]

Originally posted by RicketyRick:

I honestly wouldn't expect to get a Steam key - for a number of reasons I don't really want to get into. But I would like a discount.

I bought the game - day one - on Epic because I like the developers, I wanted to support them, and because I didn't read the fine prints. It's only later that I learned about the whole exclusivity thing. And so, I never played the game. Because, A) I don't want to have to manage multiple stores, and B) while I agree with Epic on several things, I think that exclusivity is bad for the consumer and I didn't want to support that.

Now, not playing the game on Epic was my decision - and I still don't intend to do so. But having to pay for the game twice... that's a bit much. And unfortunately, that does impact my opinion of the developer.

The devs sold out epic's anti-competition anti-customer paid exclusivity deal and they rightly carry the consequences of that action. But, you bought the game and supposedly in complete ignorance of their having done so.

I'm going to sound harsh here, but the opinion you need to be impacting is that of your own purchasing decisions. You failed to educate yourself as to what you were buying and by extension supporting despite the fact that you seemingly had at least two very good reasons for not doing so. Buyer's remorse is an understandable reaction but to be blunt expecting the devs and Valve now to compensate for your own mistakes is frankly barking, indeed although the word gets thrown around far too much these days to the point it's lost all meaning it could almost be called entitled.

[GeezerCake]

Originally posted by Dinger:

Originally posted by RicketyRick:

I honestly wouldn't expect to get a Steam key - for a number of reasons I don't really want to get into. But I would like a discount.

I bought the game - day one - on Epic because I like the developers, I wanted to support them, and because I didn't read the fine prints. It's only later that I learned about the whole exclusivity thing. And so, I never played the game. Because, A) I don't want to have to manage multiple stores, and B) while I agree with Epic on several things, I think that exclusivity is bad for the consumer and I didn't want to support that.

Now, not playing the game on Epic was my decision - and I still don't intend to do so. But having to pay for the game twice... that's a bit much. And unfortunately, that does impact my opinion of the developer.

The devs sold out epic's anti-competition anti-customer paid exclusivity deal and they rightly carry the consequences of that action. But, you bought the game and supposedly in complete ignorance of their having done so.

I'm going to sound harsh here, but the opinion you need to be impacting is that of your own purchasing decisions. You failed to educate yourself as to what you were buying and by extension supporting despite the fact that you seemingly had at least two very good reasons for not doing so. Buyer's remorse is an understandable reaction but to be blunt expecting the devs and Valve now to compensate for your own mistakes is frankly barking, indeed although the word gets thrown around far too much these days to the point it's lost all meaning it could almost be called entitled.

You sound way too much educated and self-righteous for your own good. Nevertheless, my opinion stand. Freedom of expression and all that. Besides, I never said that I entitled myself to anything - just that I would like for the developers to do a certain thing. Whether they decide to do so or not is their own decision - as is mine in deciding to buy their game a second time or not.

[TachiFoxy]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Leave EGS? Like, they aren’t selling the game there anymore or updating it for people who bought it there?
Or just also sell and update the game on Steam too?

I think people misunderstand what it means when exclusivity ends. They think a game is then removed from the marketplace, but it isn't.

[TachiFoxy]

Originally posted by Eisberg:

Originally posted by VSQAAL:

I don't see Valve providing keys for any games sold on the EGS. Bandwidth and so on aren't free.

Well, Valve does provide keys for game sold outside of Steam, but they won't do that if they feel is is being abused, and it is based on the number of sales they are seeing through their own store vs what the developers are asking for. If the game sold like 500k on EGS, but the game is looking like it is only going to sell like 200k on Steam with in the near future, then Valve will most likely deny giving keys because of that disparity alone. (numbers use are for demonstration purpose only)

Wrong. Valve provides codes to the Steamworks-dev to provide those keys - for free - to other storefronts such as Humble, Green Man Gaming, their own website and so on.

They do not provide keys for games bought on a storefront that never offered a Steam-compatible version of the games. There are a handful of exceptions, but in those there are no keys given out; a grant is being given due to a deal of the developer and the Steam platform - see Destiny 2 with their "Battle.net to Steam" transfer, for instance.

Supergiant selling the game on the EGS is like them having sold the game on GOG.com. You won't get a Steam-key from GOG.com after buying it there, either, so why would the EGS follow suit?

[TachiFoxy]

Originally posted by Eisberg:

Originally posted by TachiFoxy:

Wrong. Valve provides codes to the Steamworks-dev to provide those keys - for free - to other storefronts such as Humble, Green Man Gaming, their own website and so on.

They do not provide keys for games bought on a storefront that never offered a Steam-compatible version of the games. There are a handful of exceptions, but in those there are no keys given out; a grant is being given due to a deal of the developer and the Steam platform - see Destiny 2 with their "Battle.net to Steam" transfer, for instance.

Supergiant selling the game on the EGS is like them having sold the game on GOG.com. You won't get a Steam-key from GOG.com after buying it there, either, so why would the EGS follow suit?

Like I said, due to the current rules they won't allow it. That is why I used Elite Dangerous as an example since that game was being sold on the developers website for like a year before releasing to Steam, and there was no promise of a Steam key for people who bought it from Frontier's website, and due to popular demand Frontier decided to get Steam keys for the people who bought from the website with in the last year and Valve allowed it but they also didn't have the current rules back then.

Yeah, it's a case-by-case basis. So if Supergiant decides against it, then that's how it will be. But who knows, they did mention earlier in the thread that they'll look into it.

[☠✠☩ Nekator ☩✠☠]

People who bought it on Epic Sellout Store should get a kick in the ass.. and stay in their chinese spyware shop.