Arachne absolutely annoys me

[Annie]

First: I love this game, really! I fell in love with the first part and on the first day the second was available, I got it. And even though it is "only" early access, it has so much to offer, and I can't wait to see the path to Olympus and finish the storyline!

However, one thing that truly annoys me is Arachne's character. Unlike the other punished souls in the first Hades, she doesn't show remorse for mocking the gods and thus being turned into a spider.
IT. WAS. HER. OWN. FAULT.
She has no right to be so bitter and hateful towards the gods, when it was her pride that caused her situation. With everyone else, there was some kind of redemption arc. Either before or during the game play, no matter which part. But with her it doesn't feel she'll ever understand that it was her fault, that mocking and insulting someone can cause trouble, and if it wasn't for the armour, I wouldn't go to her.

I really really wish she would let go of her bitterness and resentment, and that she will have some form of development in the future, because she reminds me of this typical “Oh, what is this? The consequences of my actions?”-Karen.

[Toxic Coffee]

the writers nailed the woman moment tbh

[monkie rench]

From the WIki description of Ovid's recounting of the tale:

"She became a great weaver, boasted that her skill was greater than Athena's, and refused to acknowledge that her skill came, at least in part, from the goddess. Athena took offense and set up a contest between them. Presenting herself as an old lady, she approached the boasting girl and warned her that it was unwise to compare herself to any of the gods and that she should plead for forgiveness from Athena.

Arachne was not disheartened and boasted that if Athena wished to make her stop, she should appear in person and do it herself. Immediately, Athena removed her disguise and appeared in shimmering glory, clad in a sparkling white chiton. The two began weaving straight away. Athena's weaving represented four separate contests between mortals and the gods in which the gods punished mortals for setting themselves as equals of the gods. Arachne's weaving depicted ways that the gods, particularly Zeus, had misled and abused mortals, tricking, and seducing many women. When Athena saw that Arachne had not only insulted the gods but done so with a work far more beautiful than Athena's own, she was enraged. She ripped Arachne's work to shreds and hit her on the head three times with her shuttle. Shaken and embarrassed, Arachne took her life by hanging.

Seeing that, Athena felt pity for the girl, transforming her into a spider, which would go on to create webs for all time, as would her descendants."

So a mortal fairly challenged an Olympian to a weaving contest that she then won by pointing out how immature, petty, reckless, and vain Olympians can be (something the games lean quite hard into). Rather than graciously recognizing talent in the art of which she is goddess, the Olympian responds in an immature, petty, reckless and vain way, exactly as described. The mortal kills herself, which makes the Olympian feels like crap, so she gives the mortal a form that will allow her to continue her talents for all eternity.

One of the running themes of both Hades and the mythology it's based on is that Olympus and everyone who lives there are an even bigger basket case
than anything mortal.

[UNBREAKABLE]

The gods not exactly being good, sensible people is an on-going theme the game will probably keep bringing up. Even in the first game Hades is bothered by the amount of people they let die on the surface and just can't stand being around them anyway.

Now if we meet more "victims" of the gods in person then it kind of makes you wonder if Chronos is actually in the wrong for trying to stop their rule.

[Specific Beef]

Counterpoint: I don't think you should be trapped in a spider's immortal body for eternity for winning an embroidery contest

[Helen Damnation]

bait

[DaylightDemon]

classic victim-perpetrator reversal right here.

[NEBESNAYA88]

I think the whole Hades 2 game hangs on the Wrath of Arachne. She Cannot be removed from the plot however much she may annoy someone. Without her, there wouldn't have been Hades 2. Even in EA it has already been given away,
I kind of like it - Wrath of Arachne. No matter how small, there is still something you can do. All she got was eternity, that is plenty to start off from with patience and nothing left to lose

[monkie rench]

Originalmente postado por Specific Beef:

Counterpoint: I don't think you should be trapped in a spider's immortal body for eternity for winning an embroidery contest

Yeah, and you also shouldn’t be chained to a rock so an eagle can pick out your guts for all eternity just because you gave fire to mortals, but there Prometheus is. The Greek gods are egotistical ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right down the line.

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Arachne and Prometheus is the answer to the question: "What if the God(s) we believe in aren't as benevolent as we hoped?"

Arachne's weaving skills were absolutely her bragging rights and it's no different than today's "Git gud" situations. Nowadays we would think people are "salty" when they get angry being looked down upon, and that also applies to the Olympians.

[BROLY 32]

I hope Chronos wins.

[TKk64]

I'm sure there are nearly endless numbers of valid interpretations of Arachne's situation, but as a rule of thumb, if an Olympian did something, it was probably wrong and messed up

[monkie rench]

The Boys: Ancient Greek edition

[monkie rench]

The irony is that in game and myth, Athena is by far the most rational and levelheaded of the Olympians (Goddess of Wisdom and all) but even she was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to someone who wounded her pride.

[NEBESNAYA88]

Originalmente postado por rymo88:

The irony is that in game and myth, Athena is by far the most rational and levelheaded of the Olympians (Goddess of Wisdom and all) but even she was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to someone who wounded her pride.

A goddess of wisdom also wouldn't argue with 2 other women over an apple

[sun6000]

I would agree...but the cause of her transformation was ultimately caused because ATHENA threw a temper tantrum from Arachne WINNING a contest fair and square against Athena.

Was Arachne egoistical and such? Sure, however her punishment was caused Athena was to arrogant to admit she had been beaten, and proved exactly what Arachne accused the gods of being with her petty act of violence and spite.

What sorta lesson was meant to be learned from that? "Dont call out people for who they are?"

I'd say Arachne out of everyone tormented is justified in her anger.