Selene kinda L

[YawningPersian]

Is it just me or is the Selene's mechanic super annoying and kinda useless? I'd literally rather have any other bon than have to choose hers :/

[wat3r]

To be honest, I've found that the only one worth using is moon water. Too strong to go into bosses with 7+ 25hp heals.

[Nokturnal]

Originally posted by Sokol:

Calls from Hades 1 were way better. You either have to heavily invest into the hex or it becomes a button you use when you actually remember, or perhaps when you have downtime due to lack of magicka.

I literally take everything else if I have other choices. Only moon water is somewhat reliable and phase shift (becomes useless against Chronos).

It just does not feel as rewarding like fully charged Artemis of Aphrodite call from Hades 1. And it is basically a substitute.

Even for non-combat purposes, the Calls were better in 1 as
A: Each call was unique to each God, adding flavor to each Ultimate basically.
B: Having an ultimate wasn't necessary for most builds but it was a nice cherry on top, you didn't pick from each ultimate at the same time so while people had their favorites, all of them still got some use. (Rather than Selune's less useful Ultimates being ignored entirely)
C: No more God Calls means no more cool dialogue between the Gods and the Boss you're currently fighting. This is another just big bummer.

(Like you summoning Poseidon and him being like, Don't worry Nephew, I got your back and Hades being like "GDI Posiedon you son of a-")

[Koshmarex]

I want to smell Selene's armpits, but that's just me.

[Tomcio P]

I am team Hex, Selene's keepsake was the first I maxed. I have no idea if it's optimal, but I lvoe getting the path of stars to the point where I'm spamming omega moves to get hexes, and spamming hexes to get back mana. Is it optimal? Dunno, but it feels good.

[dustin1280]

I like what they are trying to do with it, but outside of the healing one, I find most of her hexes not great...

At the very least if you had invincibility while casting the hex, that would help make them more useful.
But depending on the hex, it is just not worth it to use the most of the time.

Frankly the only ones I even consider at this point are
Healing Hex (100% of the time if it's an option)
Morphing Hex and Slow time hex.

[jimmyliou1990]

I like this new mechanics honestly, but I suppose you can only treat hex as cherry on top of the cake and not the cake itself.

Those passive buffs are nice things to have and moon pool is life saving, but ultimately this system simply isn't something one should prioritize (especially when a good number of hex for now are quite difficult to make good use)

[WolfLink0370]

Ultimately I feel the Hexes themselves don't really matter how good they are; you should simply just choose what you think will best support your main weapon and/or the build you are going for.

The big thing to keep in mind is that each individual hex has, for the most part, it's own set of unique boons you can take along it's Path of Stars.
For example, say you wanted a bit more punch on your attacks; Night Bloom, Lunar Ray, Total Eclipse and even Twilight Curse... they all offer the common boon in Purpose (deal +5% damage while your hex is still charging) a few times across their Path of Stars. which can add up to quite a decent bonus...
But if you wanted to have defense, you'd have to choose Phase Shift (for Steadfastness... works while charging), or Lunar Ray (for Bearing, but only while using the Hex)

As an alternative to the defense example above, you could choose Dark Side for the invulnerability (plus the exclusive Tension boon to slightly increase your chance to dodge while Dark Side is charging), or Moon Water for healing (although it should be noted that while the Hex for Moon Water is good out of the gate, all the boons it offers in its Path of Stars only serve to improve the hex itself, and not the rest of your offense/defense)

[Nokturnal]

In addition to all the problems that have already been stated. It's kind of odd that Selune is the only god to give you an Ultimate basically. It comes off as favoritism by the developers even though I'm sure that wasn't their intent. (Melinoe even says "Moonlight guide us" when saluting people) In Hades 1, Zag didn't have a canonically favorite Greek God/Goddess, he was pretty neutral and each God offered him their Call. Where as it comes off as Melinoe is Selune's #1 Fangirl and the other gods are just kinda nice I guess.

[Sigusin]

Doesn't help most of the path of stars are extremely bugged or bad designed.

[Monika]

The HP regen Hex is genuinely OP unless you have 0% hp regen (fear). 25 per use sounds bad but isn't, and you can further increase it.

Most good builds don't really require a LOT of boons to work, meaning most extra boons you get will be useless, while getting multiple hexes is genuinely always good, as the upgrades are kinda absurd (some upgrades give you invulnerability or further increase your whole damage by a % ).

That said, taking a HEX first thing (before even your first boon or hammer) is indeed quite bad, and I will literally give up on high fear runs when that happens.

[Monika]

Originally posted by Nokturnal:

In addition to all the problems that have already been stated. It's kind of odd that Selune is the only god to give you an Ultimate basically. It comes off as favoritism by the developers even though I'm sure that wasn't their intent. (Melinoe even says "Moonlight guide us" when saluting people) In Hades 1, Zag didn't have a canonically favorite Greek God/Goddess, he was pretty neutral and each God offered him their Call. Where as it comes off as Melinoe is Selune's #1 Fangirl and the other gods are just kinda nice I guess.

I feel this comparison doesn't make a lot of sense. Melinone is a completely different character, who has different relationships with the gods than Zag. Hexes coming from Selune completely fits her themes.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by Nokturnal:

In addition to all the problems that have already been stated. It's kind of odd that Selune is the only god to give you an Ultimate basically. It comes off as favoritism by the developers even though I'm sure that wasn't their intent. (Melinoe even says "Moonlight guide us" when saluting people) In Hades 1, Zag didn't have a canonically favorite Greek God/Goddess, he was pretty neutral and each God offered him their Call. Where as it comes off as Melinoe is Selune's #1 Fangirl and the other gods are just kinda nice I guess.

This is probably the strangest critique of the hexes and selene I've seen.

This is like the critiques of nemesis because "she's mean".

Yes, Mel literally says moonlight guide us so yeah. She's got a connection to selene. That's not a problem.

[Lochlann]

Originally posted by Nokturnal:

In addition to all the problems that have already been stated. It's kind of odd that Selune is the only god to give you an Ultimate basically. It comes off as favoritism by the developers even though I'm sure that wasn't their intent. (Melinoe even says "Moonlight guide us" when saluting people) In Hades 1, Zag didn't have a canonically favorite Greek God/Goddess, he was pretty neutral and each God offered him their Call. Where as it comes off as Melinoe is Selune's #1 Fangirl and the other gods are just kinda nice I guess.

Zag didn't really know any of the gods of Olympus personally, he knows them as his distant relatives and that's about it

Mel knows Selene, Artemis and Hermes personally and has met them all in person several times before the events of the game even happen (by that I mean like the actual point where she starts pursuing Chronos ofc)

[Shadowfox]

the healing one is boss if you upgrade it great way to get gold or to heal from chronos also great if you messed up and lost your mana regen boon which i did one round (heras duet boon literally takes all zeuses and my dumbass took it forgetting the boon i got from him was the string that kept my entire setup working ) try fighting cerbures when your main axe attack cost mana cause you took the ability to have a strong final attack at the cost of mana and always do your final attack yeah you literally can only do dash attack or use your barrier or your B ability that was the longest fight i ever had didnt help my dash attack didnt work every so often and instead tryed doing my regular attack failing ofcourse

[Ruuubick]

I personally think that the investment in path of stars can be somewhat worth it if you can get all the +5% damage nodes, but as others have said, it's still probably not as good as a boon that fits your build.