Hades I or Hades II?

[⭕⃤ Valencia]

Hey guys, if I haven't played any part of this game, is it better to start with the second one?

UPD: Thank you all guys. I bought the first part and played 8 hours, just killed Hades now. I'll rest and go again :)

[paincanbefun]

first one is complete

this one is great too, but it is EA, so may as well get the complete one. when you want variety, then buy this one

[Neo NiGHTS ®]

Story wise it doesn't make much of a difference. Of course there are references to the first game, but this isn't a true follow up, so far it has its own story.

Gameplay wise, they are similar (of course), but have enough differences so each game has its own characteristics as well. Mainly the first game is more fast paced and this one is a bit... Not so fast (it's unfair to call it "slow").

Then, of course, the first one is a FINISHED game while this one is in Early Access and it will take at least one year until it's fully finished.


My suggestion would be to play the first one. I'm not sure, but I'd guess it's on sale right now? So that would be a good bang for your buck.

Then if you like the first game, you can come and play this one as well :)

[AquariaMoon]

Would recommend starting with the first one as things stand! The second game is still far from finished (which is fine, it's in early access for a reason), especially in the narrative. Mechanically it's getting there, but there are still sections of the game missing.
The first game is a complete experience.

[tr1p]

I really hope they bring zagerous back (not a as a playable character). I'd love him and his sister to meet.

[Juggen]

They are both very good and work separately, so I don't see why not to start with Hades 1 since Hades 2 is still in early access and you can most likely get Hades 1 on sale as well. And if you like, you buy Hades 2 as well. :)

[CDsmasher]

Originally posted by tr1p:

I really hope they bring zagerous back (not a as a playable character). I'd love him and his sister to meet.

Duh....

[[JRE] Joe Rogan]

If you don't have either getting the first one is a no brainer its not even close the amount of content and polish in the first one is much greater than this one especially when considering price right now. Once you're done with the first one then you probably wanna play this one if you enjoy it.

[⭕⃤ Valencia]

Thank you all guys. I bought the first part and played 8 hours, just killed Hades now. I'll rest and go again :)

[Neo NiGHTS ®]

Originally posted by ⭕⃤ Valencia:

Thank you all guys. I bought the first part and played 8 hours, just killed Hades now. I'll rest and go again :)

Hey, congrats!

Now you'll have around 50+ hours of enjoyment until you unlock everything, including the real ending and all the dialogues and story arches.

[⭕⃤ Valencia]

Originally posted by Neo NiGHTS ®:

Originally posted by ⭕⃤ Valencia:

Thank you all guys. I bought the first part and played 8 hours, just killed Hades now. I'll rest and go again :)

Hey, congrats!

Now you'll have around 50+ hours of enjoyment until you unlock everything, including the real ending and all the dialogues and story arches.

Yup, I need all achievements, and then I’ll go for the second one!)

[Stret]

hades 1 is genuinely a much better game in almost every department i can think of, at the moment

initial premise, enemy/boss design, level design and variety, mechanically interesting boons, the player weapons having moves that actually mechanically synergize well with eachother, general setting and premise, main character, dialogue, character portraits, not padding out the game with elements such as eris blessing, soundtrack, aaand so on

[三Akiyama]

Hades 1 is by far the best choice. Better story, better characters, more interesting/entertaining gameplay(, less woke trash).

[Stret]

Originally posted by Juggen:

Originally posted by Stret:

tbf, hades 1 does have better gameplay, better story, and better characters right now

Sure is, but as soon as people start spewing "woke" all your arguments can be neglected.

just praise part of the points and then unpraise the other part
in fact that would be very productive for showing your distaste of calling things woke, because it would make you seem very unbiased towards the matter

[MrTeamGuy]

Originally posted by Juggen:

Originally posted by Stret:

tbf, hades 1 does have better gameplay, better story, and better characters right now

Sure is, but as soon as people start spewing "woke" all your arguments can be neglected.

woke does exist in both games, and for some, that does ruin part of experience. And if we say which one has more of it, I would say 2nd have a bit more. Some like woke stuff in their games, some don't. As long as we don't play blind here, we can see when stuff is on the side of woke more than not. As long as the woke stuff doesn't hurt the story quality, it is fine with me (and I am very tired of woke in entertainment, but all due to it affecting quality). Here I am giving this game a second chance (because before I refunded it due to trying to rush analyse the game within refund policy hours). It seemed fine, but woke art was just not for my taste. The first weapon I truly dislike (now I unlocked the 2nd and I think that would have been a better started weapon). The Currencies mechanic feels overwhelming at the start (i guess it needs some time to get used to).

Basically Hades 2 struggle with being Hades game. As people who played Hades, they will miss the previous characters that are not there at the first few hours. The combat has a slight delay, compared to the first one. There are a bit more currencies, which can lead to confusion. Different upgrade systems etc,
So the first hours for Hades 1 players can feel pretty weak. And for new players it can feel overwhelmed with mechanics (as the basic combat skills,gifts, boons are from the first game, while cards/currencies/gathering with tools are implemented from very early on).
Hades 1 had slower start, but it took faster to show charisma in the main character and his relationship with the last Boss in a unique father/son angle. The combat was introduced with more simple combos and more simple to use weapon/less spells and specials.

As for it being woke, some of us on the other political side have to grind our teeth through things like that just to get to the gameplay.
I see cliches from the Woke here, but with the time I've played. I can't confirm if it actually is woke. As being inclusive to different sexual preferences, race swapping and breaking feminine and masculine stereotypes just to show them opposite... These things doesn't define woke on their own, but when they are in the same jar, I think we can call it on woke agenda. While, there is hateful Woke, and there is just woke. Hateful woke is the bad one. While this one, seems more innocent, and I can see the charm of it for those who enjoy that side of things.


Point is, I don't think we need to ignore people who mention if a thing is woke or not. As it is so loosely defined, some might just talk about few aspects of it. Woke is subjective thing, while being honest about it is a good start.

[drz30]

Hades 1 no question. Hades 2 is not worth the price right now. I've returned it after one hour(and I really love Hades 1)