Why is Hephaestus a GOD in a WHEELCHAIR?

[סוויפטי]

can someone explain to me how and why a god is in a wheelchair? i am at a loss for words.

[Lord Adorable]

Because in Greek mythology he's limp/lame.

Hera cast him from Olympus for being "ugly" and the fall left him crippled. He tried at one point to find a way to overcome his disability too, if I recall correctly, as showcased by some old depictions of him holding something that seems to be a form of crutch.

Also, the guy made chariots and automatons. He also made a wheeled chair for himself in the actual mythology.

[סוויפטי]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Because in Greek mythology he's limp/lame and tried at one point to find a way to overcome it.

aah so greek mythology has wheelchairs.

thanks learned something today!

[ChickenMadness]

Because ancient disabled Greeks in wheelchairs tried to cancel the gods on twitter for not representing them. So the gods put Hephaestus in a wheelchair to bend the knee to the ancient mob.

[CadaveR]

It's just virtue signaling

[Neon Samurai]

In Greek mythology he walks with a limp, because he is lame (by definition he walks with some difficulty). The account also varies as to how he became lame, either being born with it, or it being caused by Zeus for Hephaestus trying to get it on with his mother.

There is no reason at all for putting him into a wheelchair, beyond bending the knee to the usual vocal minority

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by 𝐂𝐚𝐝𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐑:

It's just virtue signaling

Could be worse. Could be vice-signaling. At least virtues are something to aspire towards.

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Neon Samurai:

In Greek mythology he walks with a limp, because he is lame (by definition he walks with some difficulty). The account also varies as to how he became lame, either being born with it, or it being caused by Zeus for Hephaestus trying to get it on with his mother.

There is no reason at all for putting him into a wheelchair, beyond bending the knee to the usual vocal minority

Or they put him in one because he does actually have a winged chair in actual mythology.

[Specific Beef]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Or they put him in one because he does actually have a winged chair in actual mythology.

* wheeled :)

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Specific Beef:

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Or they put him in one because he does actually have a winged chair in actual mythology.

* wheeled :)

Yes, it has wheels too.

[Nico]

Originally posted by 𝐂𝐚𝐝𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐑:

It's just virtue signaling

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you're completely and utterly incorrect here.[www.thecollector.com]

[Silky]

Y'all got google right? You can type these things into google and ask it if you're confused next time
https://www.google.com/search?q=greek+gods+in+wheelchairs&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[lyralady]

lol yes....ancient greece depicted hephaestus in a winged chariot chair -- that is, a chair with wheels. and wings. because he had a limp. we have a vase painted example, c.a. 525 BCE https://www.theoi.com/Gallery/K7.6.html Attributed to the Ambrosios Painter. Description on Theoi reads: "Hephaestus returns to Olympus from his exile on the shores of the river Oceanus riding a winged chariot-car or chair. The chair is decorated with the heads, wings and tail of a crane. The god carries a double-headed smith's mallet."

also this is....*literally* in the illiad, lmfao.

book 18, verse 368

"On this wise spake they one to the other; but silver-footed Thetis came unto the house of Hephaestus, imperishable, decked with stars, preeminent among the houses of immortals, wrought all of bronze, that the crook-foot god himself had built him. Him she found sweating with toil as he moved to and fro about his bellows in eager haste; for he was fashioning tripods, twenty in all, to stand around the wall of his well-builded hall, and golden wheels had he set beneath the base of each that of themselves they might enter the gathering of the gods at his wish and again return to his house, a wonder to behold. Thus much were they fully wrought, that not yet were the cunningly fashioned ears set thereon; these was he making ready, and was forging the rivets. And while he laboured thereat with cunning skill, meanwhile there drew nigh to him the goddess, silver-footed Thetis. And Charis of the gleaming veil came forward and marked her—fair Charis, whom the famed god of the two strong arms had wedded. And she clasped her by the hand, and spake, and addressed her: "Wherefore, long-robed Thetis, art thou come to our house, an honored guest, and a welcome? Heretofore thou hast not been wont to come. But follow me further, that I may set before thee entertainment."

literally wheeled tripods (presumably chair-like, I'm thinking a three-legged stool when they say "Tripod") so that he could move around. just to be clear, a society which has invented a wheeled cart for moving people around with a horse has technically invented a wheeled chair or wheeled standing device. like this greek vase charioteer is seated: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1837-0609-75

also in verse 410 he has a bunch of like...automaton women who help him move at his forge: "The bellows he set away from the fire, and gathered all the tools wherewith he wrought into a silver chest; and with a sponge wiped he his face and his two hands withal, and his mighty neck and shaggy breast, and put upon him a tunic, and grasped a stout staff, and went forth halting; but there moved swiftly to support their lord handmaidens wrought of gold in the semblance of living maids. In them is understanding in their hearts, and in them speech and strength, and they know cunning handiwork by gift of the immortal gods."

he:

1. makes wheeled tripods for long distance movement. so like....wheelchairs......
   
2. moves haltingly with a staff briefly but,
   
3. the handmaidens of gold (automatons) that he made quickly move to support him and make his walking easier.

how are people being like WELL IN GREEK MYTHOLOGY

Originally posted by Neon Samurai:

In Greek mythology he walks with a limp, because he is lame (by definition he walks with some difficulty). The account also varies as to how he became lame, either being born with it, or it being caused by Zeus for Hephaestus trying to get it on with his mother.

There is no reason at all for putting him into a wheelchair, beyond bending the knee to the usual vocal minority

but then you're not even citing literally one of the MOST famous greek epic myths PERIOD??? which quite literally describes his creation of multiple wheeled mobility devices. yeah this is definitely bending the knee to the vocal minority of *checks notes* literally homer's the illiad.

oh nooo....virtue signalling to classics nerds in the classics mythology nerd video game.....

[Cinnabar]

Originally posted by lyralady:

lol yes....ancient greece depicted hephaestus in a winged chariot chair -- that is, a chair with wheels. and wings. because he had a limp. we have a vase painted example, c.a. 525 BCE https://www.theoi.com/Gallery/K7.6.html Attributed to the Ambrosios Painter. Description on Theoi reads: "Hephaestus returns to Olympus from his exile on the shores of the river Oceanus riding a winged chariot-car or chair. The chair is decorated with the heads, wings and tail of a crane. The god carries a double-headed smith's mallet."

also this is....*literally* in the illiad, lmfao.

book 18, verse 368

"On this wise spake they one to the other; but silver-footed Thetis came unto the house of Hephaestus, imperishable, decked with stars, preeminent among the houses of immortals, wrought all of bronze, that the crook-foot god himself had built him. Him she found sweating with toil as he moved to and fro about his bellows in eager haste; for he was fashioning tripods, twenty in all, to stand around the wall of his well-builded hall, and golden wheels had he set beneath the base of each that of themselves they might enter the gathering of the gods at his wish and again return to his house, a wonder to behold. Thus much were they fully wrought, that not yet were the cunningly fashioned ears set thereon; these was he making ready, and was forging the rivets. And while he laboured thereat with cunning skill, meanwhile there drew nigh to him the goddess, silver-footed Thetis. And Charis of the gleaming veil came forward and marked her—fair Charis, whom the famed god of the two strong arms had wedded. And she clasped her by the hand, and spake, and addressed her: "Wherefore, long-robed Thetis, art thou come to our house, an honored guest, and a welcome? Heretofore thou hast not been wont to come. But follow me further, that I may set before thee entertainment."

literally wheeled tripods (presumably chair-like, I'm thinking a three-legged stool when they say "Tripod") so that he could move around. just to be clear, a society which has invented a wheeled cart for moving people around with a horse has technically invented a wheeled chair or wheeled standing device. like this greek vase charioteer is seated: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1837-0609-75

also in verse 410 he has a bunch of like...automaton women who help him move at his forge: "The bellows he set away from the fire, and gathered all the tools wherewith he wrought into a silver chest; and with a sponge wiped he his face and his two hands withal, and his mighty neck and shaggy breast, and put upon him a tunic, and grasped a stout staff, and went forth halting; but there moved swiftly to support their lord handmaidens wrought of gold in the semblance of living maids. In them is understanding in their hearts, and in them speech and strength, and they know cunning handiwork by gift of the immortal gods."

he:

1. makes wheeled tripods for long distance movement. so like....wheelchairs......
   
2. moves haltingly with a staff briefly but,
   
3. the handmaidens of gold (automatons) that he made quickly move to support him and make his walking easier.

how are people being like WELL IN GREEK MYTHOLOGY

Originally posted by Neon Samurai:

In Greek mythology he walks with a limp, because he is lame (by definition he walks with some difficulty). The account also varies as to how he became lame, either being born with it, or it being caused by Zeus for Hephaestus trying to get it on with his mother.

There is no reason at all for putting him into a wheelchair, beyond bending the knee to the usual vocal minority

but then you're not even citing literally one of the MOST famous greek epic myths PERIOD??? which quite literally describes his creation of multiple wheeled mobility devices. yeah this is definitely bending the knee to the vocal minority of *checks notes* literally homer's the illiad.

oh nooo....virtue signalling to classics nerds in the classics mythology nerd video game.....

College level response.
I love you.
And now I gotta read even more Homer lmaoooo

[DrKold]

Originally posted by lyralady:

lol yes....ancient greece depicted hephaestus in a winged chariot chair -- that is, a chair with wheels. and wings. because he had a limp. we have a vase painted example, c.a. 525 BCE https://www.theoi.com/Gallery/K7.6.html Attributed to the Ambrosios Painter. Description on Theoi reads: "Hephaestus returns to Olympus from his exile on the shores of the river Oceanus riding a winged chariot-car or chair. The chair is decorated with the heads, wings and tail of a crane. The god carries a double-headed smith's mallet."

also this is....*literally* in the illiad, lmfao.

book 18, verse 368

"On this wise spake they one to the other; but silver-footed Thetis came unto the house of Hephaestus, imperishable, decked with stars, preeminent among the houses of immortals, wrought all of bronze, that the crook-foot god himself had built him. Him she found sweating with toil as he moved to and fro about his bellows in eager haste; for he was fashioning tripods, twenty in all, to stand around the wall of his well-builded hall, and golden wheels had he set beneath the base of each that of themselves they might enter the gathering of the gods at his wish and again return to his house, a wonder to behold. Thus much were they fully wrought, that not yet were the cunningly fashioned ears set thereon; these was he making ready, and was forging the rivets. And while he laboured thereat with cunning skill, meanwhile there drew nigh to him the goddess, silver-footed Thetis. And Charis of the gleaming veil came forward and marked her—fair Charis, whom the famed god of the two strong arms had wedded. And she clasped her by the hand, and spake, and addressed her: "Wherefore, long-robed Thetis, art thou come to our house, an honored guest, and a welcome? Heretofore thou hast not been wont to come. But follow me further, that I may set before thee entertainment."

literally wheeled tripods (presumably chair-like, I'm thinking a three-legged stool when they say "Tripod") so that he could move around. just to be clear, a society which has invented a wheeled cart for moving people around with a horse has technically invented a wheeled chair or wheeled standing device. like this greek vase charioteer is seated: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1837-0609-75

also in verse 410 he has a bunch of like...automaton women who help him move at his forge: "The bellows he set away from the fire, and gathered all the tools wherewith he wrought into a silver chest; and with a sponge wiped he his face and his two hands withal, and his mighty neck and shaggy breast, and put upon him a tunic, and grasped a stout staff, and went forth halting; but there moved swiftly to support their lord handmaidens wrought of gold in the semblance of living maids. In them is understanding in their hearts, and in them speech and strength, and they know cunning handiwork by gift of the immortal gods."

he:

1. makes wheeled tripods for long distance movement. so like....wheelchairs......
   
2. moves haltingly with a staff briefly but,
   
3. the handmaidens of gold (automatons) that he made quickly move to support him and make his walking easier.

how are people being like WELL IN GREEK MYTHOLOGY

Originally posted by Neon Samurai:

In Greek mythology he walks with a limp, because he is lame (by definition he walks with some difficulty). The account also varies as to how he became lame, either being born with it, or it being caused by Zeus for Hephaestus trying to get it on with his mother.

There is no reason at all for putting him into a wheelchair, beyond bending the knee to the usual vocal minority

but then you're not even citing literally one of the MOST famous greek epic myths PERIOD??? which quite literally describes his creation of multiple wheeled mobility devices. yeah this is definitely bending the knee to the vocal minority of *checks notes* literally homer's the illiad.

oh nooo....virtue signalling to classics nerds in the classics mythology nerd video game.....

Damn so it actually makes sense lol

I thought it was just stupid vitual signaling.

[Hurkyl]

Originally posted by DrKold:

Damn so it actually makes sense lol

I thought it was just stupid vitual signaling.

It may still be. We just (?) have the image, so as far as we know they could be going for anything from anachronistic humor to blatant pandering. We won't really know until we have more to go on.