Aspect of Momus feels absurdly strong

[TrashPrime]

I am not very good at games. It took me well over 30 attempts to beat chronos for the first time.
Upon doing so, I figured out how to unlock weapon aspects, unlocked the momus aspect, leveled it up once after doing one of the heat runs or whatever its called this time.
absolutely melted everything. Everything died. Chronos got destroyed in under 2 minutes.
It boosts the damage of your most spammable and safest attack, your special, by a flat amount (20+ for the run i did last, but it gets stronger) and its just absurd how good this is. There was never a point in which i had to change my playstyle. I was a turret of bs damage. It got even more ridiculous when i got the hammer upgrade that let me fire two shots that both homed now.
The difference in difficulty I have been experiencing was so shocking.
I really, reaaaaally like this aspect, but i have a feeling it will get nerfed at some point.
I cant even possibly imagine how much stronger this would be if i had the artemis boon that caused arrows to shoot out whenever you connect your abilities, or hell even the zeus boon that makes lightning balls arc at nearby foes.

[FatBottomGurley]

How so you unlock weapon aspects?

[MidnightMist]

Originally posted by FatBottomGurley:

How so you unlock weapon aspects?

I think you have to unlock every weapon first, which means you have make it to the surface at least once. After that Hectate should have dialogue that unlocks an incantation that lets you unlock weapon aspects.

[Asriel]

Momus ngl is still not as strong as the likes of pan where you can just delete chronos before he can do much. Staff special is safe and all but its super low 10 dmg means even +25 it's not exactly viable without ability to easily stall. Staff's omega attack is still a better dps tool, especially if compared with a hammer support.

[vullord666]

I can understand it getting nerfed, the devs talked about wanting all weapons to feel equally powerful so you can try different playstyles, but the weapon upgrades in general feel all over the place to me. Like a lot require several boss drops just to get and doing aspects at all mean you've been playing for a while, so I can get them being stronger. Just to max out Momus requires N-mare which having played 30 hours I haven't seen at all (at this point I assume you need to beat cronus for it). But its stuff like I can max out Mel's aspect of the staff... and all I get is a faster cast which is better I guess... Idk. I'm probably thinking about it with the wrong mindset.

Anyway, you mentioned heat runs, so isn't that post game? In which case might as well have an OP weapon or two.

[MidnightMist]

I just read Momus because of this thread, and you have to be less than half heath for the buff to even kick in. Is it really that good if you have to be so low health for it to even work?

[TrashPrime]

Originally posted by MidnightMist:

I just read Momus because of this thread, and you half to be less than half heath for the buff to even kick in. Is it really that good if you have to be so low health for it to even work?

The flat damage buff is always active. The health effect only happens at half health or less.

[Zargay]

Agree on the flat dmg increase, but the +5hp on omega absorb is awful, very bad, asks you to just sprint into it.. and you don't have old athena boon to make it so it's shielded, useless xD

[Vigeroy]

Originally posted by Asriel:

Momus ngl is still not as strong as the likes of pan where you can just delete chronos before he can do much. Staff special is safe and all but its super low 10 dmg means even +25 it's not exactly viable without ability to easily stall. Staff's omega attack is still a better dps tool, especially if compared with a hammer support.

Bro with fast hitting but low base dmg weapong just slaps some on-hit on it and we gucci. Poseidon special add a flat 40-60 dmg at first lvl. Paired that with the double hitting hammer boon and you're beyond broken, This is without the heal on Omega special too (which you can just fire into a wall)

[TrashPrime]

i made a video kinda showing off how busted it is, i only had the upgrade effect at +20, so it gets even more busted.
https://youtu.be/Ik3tq8fwOjo?si=QrZen6QEZmBh6iTj

Originally posted by Zargay:

Agree on the flat dmg increase, but the +5hp on omega absorb is awful, very bad, asks you to just sprint into it.. and you don't have old athena boon to make it so it's shielded, useless xD

yeah that passive is really nothing special at all. at least you can get SOME health i guess, but the flat damage up is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ strong that you really have no reason to get hit in almost all mob fights. this aspect is absurdly strong

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by TrashPrime:

i made a video kinda showing off how busted it is, i only had the upgrade effect at +20, so it gets even more busted.
https://youtu.be/Ik3tq8fwOjo?si=QrZen6QEZmBh6iTj

Originally posted by Zargay:

Agree on the flat dmg increase, but the +5hp on omega absorb is awful, very bad, asks you to just sprint into it.. and you don't have old athena boon to make it so it's shielded, useless xD

yeah that passive is really nothing special at all. at least you can get SOME health i guess, but the flat damage up is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ strong that you really have no reason to get hit in almost all mob fights. this aspect is absurdly strong

That doesn't seem that fast compared to backstab dagger which can be built to spam 1500 crits, cast builds with skull that crit for 3k+, hex builds with wands where you're deleting things with hex spam due to the magic use, and low health axe builds.

What's your fastest clear time with that? It will show you on the weapon though I wish it separated out the aspects with separate clear times.

[lukeliu]

Yeah, it is probably the safest weapon. You can even omega the wall to restore health lol

Yet, in terms of DPS, I would suggest the Aspect of Pan dagger. When paired with the right setup and flame boon, you can deal over 1k damage with each omega special. It's probably the most broken build I've found so far, and it's also pretty fun to play!

[lukeliu]

Originally posted by Zargay:

Agree on the flat dmg increase, but the +5hp on omega absorb is awful, very bad, asks you to just sprint into it.. and you don't have old athena boon to make it so it's shielded, useless xD

Nope... just omega the wall :D

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by lukeliu:

Yeah, it is probably the safest weapon. You can even omega the wall to restore health lol

Yet, in terms of DPS, I would suggest the Aspect of Pan dagger. When paired with the right setup and flame boon, you can deal over 1k damage with each omega special. It's probably the most broken build I've found so far, and it's also pretty fun to play!

With backstab dagger you just spam regular attacks for 1500 crits on every 3rd hit, never mind the absurd attack speed triggering procs. 1500 is just the base weapon damage on the 3rd hit w/crit. With 300% third hit buff attack damage your top two damages will be blitz and regular attacks

[TrashPrime]

Originally posted by ffrotty:

Originally posted by TrashPrime:

i made a video kinda showing off how busted it is, i only had the upgrade effect at +20, so it gets even more busted.
https://youtu.be/Ik3tq8fwOjo?si=QrZen6QEZmBh6iTj




yeah that passive is really nothing special at all. at least you can get SOME health i guess, but the flat damage up is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ strong that you really have no reason to get hit in almost all mob fights. this aspect is absurdly strong

That doesn't seem that fast compared to backstab dagger which can be built to spam 1500 crits, cast builds with skull that crit for 3k+, hex builds with wands where you're deleting things with hex spam due to the magic use, and low health axe builds.

What's your fastest clear time with that? It will show you on the weapon though I wish it separated out the aspects with separate clear times.

I think like 30 minutes? But keep in mind I'm not a good player. I don't have any leveled arcana cards are anything either.
If someone better than me had what I was going on it would be far better. I really was just spamming special and that's kinda it and even still when rewatching it I was missing a lot of shots from the special just hitting its maxed range.
I'm not surprised the daggers and their aspects are more broken though.
That's what I used to first beat chronos.

[Angelus]

LOL PCgamer just linked to this thread rather than paraphrase Such journalism. Much wow.