Nemesis is spoiling my game.

[Bigbellystyles]

Is it just me or does Nemesis annoy any of you with this worthless 1000 in 5 second dps test? One reason I love the Hades series is I love the multitude of combat builds and trying to come up with truly awesome builds, if I feel a build isn't working I will likely restart. However as it stands every time I feel I got a really good setup forming she comes along with that blasted dps check and steals the heart. Now I know its only health, but its the first one you get and it puts a real spoil on the build so much so I can't continue. Maybe its an OCD thing, I tried pushing past it but when it happens I can't stop thinking about it and I end up just restarting anyway.
The thing that really annoys me about it though is not that its there, but that its near impossible to actually do, unless you get lucky early with the moonstone axe and you get a huge burst build I don't see this as really possible to do. (If someone knows some trick I'm missing, please let me know).
It's just really spoiling the game for me and I was wondering if this was annoying anyone else.
Otherwise loving the game, can't wait to see some of the placeholder art be updated.

[og]

I think they tried something with her that they will pull back. Stealing items and gold is just kind of annoying, especially when we are all weak at the beginning. Maybe she goes away when you kill Chronos? No idea.

[SaintBehelit]

In concept I don't dislike her little intrusions, but I do feel that the events where you have to beat her in some kind of challenge are too difficult to have a punishment attached to losing them.

It's hard to balance random encounters like these to feel both challenging AND fair even when you lose, so there's no telling what changes the devs might make in future updates.

[IcecrEm]

I am surprised how many people don't like her, I like her intruding on my run. Maybe I would just tone down how quickly she attacks so she isn't as good at stealing your gold? I've also only had the DPS one once but I was weak so idk how it seems with better setup.

[Luke]

Nemesis once gave me a restore death defiance, which I couldn't use, and took my Daedalus hammer upgrade exit in Erebus. That has to be the worst encounter I've had with her.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by IcecrEm:

I am surprised how many people don't like her, I like her intruding on my run. Maybe I would just tone down how quickly she attacks so she isn't as good at stealing your gold? I've also only had the DPS one once but I was weak so idk how it seems with better setup.

Same. I like it too. I enjoy the stakes.

[Ssjbryando]

She's the funnest part of all the dynamics to me in this game. Much more advanced than Thanathos was and she's badass. Yes, she does steal your stuff but it adds so much depth to the co-op imagination of Nemesis doing these rooms next to you

The 1k DMG in 5 seconds is a bad challenge however and should probably be re-tuned.

[lukeliu]

Yeah, 1000 hp in 5 seconds is absolutely non sense. Not more than 1/10 of the builds are capable of doing that. Most builds require an initial setup to wind up the DPS. It would be much fairer if it were something like 2000 hp in 10 seconds.

[IronPower]

I have not beaten Nemisis in any of her challenges yet, in about 35 runs I made so far. To me she is just annoying and whenever I meet her in a room I just *Sigh* when I find her in a room and hope she doesn't want to contest me again. It is really annoying when she walls off something good behind her 1000 hp challenge in room 5 for example. I don't know if I am the best to judge if I hate or like her, because I haven't felt any rush when I finally beat her in something yet, but for now I could really live without her intrusions on my run ^^;

[Alucard]

Originally posted by Orzeker:

She's annoying me when she take the path I want .... Other than that she's ok, I enjoyed thanatos a lot more though.

btw, if you are fast enough you can enter the path she was trying to take, there is also some special dialougue for that

[Wadowicki Goblin]

Nemesis sucks both as a character and as a game "mechanic".

[Dwarvin' Marvin]

I don't think it would be as bad if there was a little icon like for the bosses that she was in a room, and the reward you got for beating her was a little better. It feels like you're getting scummed by rng when it ambushes you.

[TNmancer]

I really hate being taxed 100 gold because I picked one of the slow weapons.

[Kaein]

Originally posted by Soul.of.Trance:

they need to tone her down or take her out of the game. She's far more annoying than Thanatos, with all the kill stealing, gold stealing, path stealing, buying items at my shop. All of it. get it out of this game.

I agree. She's a pain in the ass.

[Made of Magic And Wires]

I think it might need some tweaking for certain challenges, the 1000 is pretty harsh for first Locations, but overall I like the mechanic and that it is more varied than Thanatos was in Hades 1.

Like people have said with Nem picking certain paths or buying items from Charon, you can beat them to it if you're quick enough, and it nudges you to make some quick decisions. You might lose out on resources, but that's just part of the natural balancing act of the game.

And if you need more time to think about it, you can always press Esc to pause the game.

[IronPower]

Originally posted by Made of Magic And Wires:

Like people have said with Nem picking certain paths or buying items from Charon, you can beat them to it if you're quick enough, and it nudges you to make some quick decisions. You might lose out on resources, but that's just part of the natural balancing act of the game.

And if you need more time to think about it, you can always press Esc to pause the game.

Not always though, I had some Charon encounters where she had already picked before I even got there.