Scylla's attacks are too random. My feedback and question

[Kitten Shady]

The random bullet hell generator is a really bad decision for the boss.
There is no system in sequence of her attacks. She does not have clearly understandable phases, unlike Hecate, so it is impossible to develop a strategy, and without a strategy, relying purely on luck, it is completely ineffective. Especially when Melinoe has such low stats (even, say, with a boon that is super effective against ordinary enemies and Hecate). Also 3 bosses at once is too many.

Gives a feelling that the game artificially forces to open a certain set of arcana cards or boons, and with others you won’t get past this boss, no matter what you do. Is this true? Can anyone tell me what is the best way to fight her?

[Tiny Tyrant]

The screen wide attacks come from the drummer, so take her out first. The guitarist charges at you, and can stun lock you into another member's moves, so take her out next. Scylla alone is nearly harmless, all of her attacks are either slow projectiles, or have a long windup to allow you time to move back.

The drummer makes the fight much more difficult, taking her out opens the arena up, so always blitz her down first.

[Jeris]

The band fight is pretty simple to dodge most damage. Everything is slow moving.

Take out the drummer first. When she is awake she covers the entire arena with a red area. Where you either need to be far away or right next to her to avoid the damage.

The guitarist will mostly leave you alone, only occasionally dashing at you, or shooting clear bubbles that briefly stun you.

Lead singer will either shoot red balls out that move very slowly, and are easily dodged, or will have red flame like things coming off the front of her stage. For that you can just use range attacks.

[-=MM=-Savage]

For offense
1 - 3 bosses is 3 hitboxes, use your AoEs.
2 - Roxy is stationary and Scylla is slow, they will stand in DoT AoEs for the full duration.

For Defense
1 - Roxy uses 2 pairs of attacks, forward or backward. Ring of AoEs wither spreading away from her or closing toward her. Dodge toward them between explosions and they will move past you without touching. Whole arena explosion but safe close to her, then explosion in the former safe zone with the rest of the arena safe, of those two in reverse order - stand in the safe area and sprint to the new safe area after the explosion.
2 - Jetty's attacks always start at her and are aimed directly at where you are when they start. dash away around her and not directly toward or away.
3 - Scylla is basically a banshee from the first area but bigger and her shell blocks backstabs. Kite her and use your cast to slow her down.

hope this helps

[Overeagerdragon]

THEY do actually; as long as you keep in mind that you're fighting 3 bosses with a shared lifebar.

Phase 1:
Drummer will always send OUT damage zones and then follow up with the same zones but coming IN
Guitarist will rotate between the guitar slam that sends out a damage wave and shooting out bouncy bullets in a straight line (once she starts these actions she won't change direction of her facing so it is easy to bait out this attack and then deal massive backattack damage)
Scylla will start with a trident chase then summon slow moving homing orbs

Phase 2:
Everything is the same except for the featured artist
The drummer will now also create zones that move parralel outward (or inward) or a counter clockwise line of damage zones
The guitarist will now shoot more bullets during her shooting phase (but still not change facings) and her guitar dash will now create a damage wave on start AND finish
Scylla will create way more slow moving homing orbs and will start to summon more once the first one expires; making her hard to melee at this point

Phase 3
Scylla will summon a LOT of weak but fast moving flying fish... just drop your cast on her and finish her off at this point

[DireAct]

Scylla is hella easy. All three are so slow, their moves gives you so much time to dodge them and keep distance to understand what to do.

If you're dying consistently on this boss, it's because you're so used to spamming moves and not using your brain to understand how to keep out of the way of balls moving in one direction. Or a singer walking towards you with a 3 headed prong that is literally just right in front of her. Or the drummer that stays in ONE spot and casts the same two aoe's over and over that have areas around her that she NEVER hits. Every move so slow, you never have to actually dodge/dash to get out of any of it.

I beat Scylla and co. with the Axe's spin to win, in literally 2 minutes. Gather the other two up around the drummer, charge up your spin to win axe and voila, you have your win.

Now if your rant was about Chronos, who is purposefully over tuned to keep you from progressing as much, then I'd understand. But you're ranting about the SECOND EASIEST BOSS IN THE GAME.

[Skeith]

I was actually struggling with this fight alot but over time just got used to it. There is alot of good advice here, just keep at it and you will learn it.

[Kitten Shady]

Thanx! But still, I clearly have too weak attacks and little health and magic, so still have to level up, apparently. Pretty sad because starts to become boring, it's just like I'm playing an RPG.

Maybe, of course, if I'll be very lucky and spent hour or so, it would work out, but I don’t like this option. :D

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by Kitten Shady:

Thanx! But still, I clearly have too weak attacks and little health and magic, so still have to level up, apparently. Pretty sad because starts to become boring, it's just like I'm playing an RPG.

Maybe, of course, if I'll be very lucky and spent hour or so, it would work out, but I don’t like this option. :D

I mean. That's kind of the Hallmark of this genre.

It's not required to level up, but the meta progression there exists for people of differing skill levels to succeed.

Some ppl will need more runs than others to defeat the final boss. Some ppl will need less.

And if someone doesn't want the challenge at all, there's God mode.

[Overeagerdragon]

Once you have their attack patterns down you can beat them without any buffs... I should know; I have such bad luck I've had to face them 3x already with <5 boons in total...which is great for meta-progression but not so great for actually killing enemies xD

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Once you have their attack patterns down you can beat them without any buffs... I should know; I have such bad luck I've had to face them 3x already with <5 boons in total...which is great for meta-progression but not so great for actually killing enemies xD

Lmao. Hoarding the resource rooms I see.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Once you have their attack patterns down you can beat them without any buffs... I should know; I have such bad luck I've had to face them 3x already with <5 boons in total...which is great for meta-progression but not so great for actually killing enemies xD

Lmao. Hoarding the resource rooms I see.

Not by choice xD
Let's just say I've gotten good at doing perfect runs all up until chronos with only the demeter boost and possible boons I can buy from shops... haven't gotten chronos down yet but I've unlocked just about everything else xD

[Operation40]

it was tough (for me) to see everything that's going on in this fight as I'm playing it..
after 5 or 6 deaths to her I watched a youtube of it.. next attempt was successful.

I could've probably figured it out eventually.. maybe..

and holy carp the boss music slaps so freaking hard