Hestia's Scorch doesn't feel very strong

[wwwJam]

I'm having a really hard time liking Hestia's Scorch mechanic, at least when it's on attack. If I just have it on cast, it's whatever, it's extra damage, can't complain too much. But when I stack up something like 500+ damage of Scorch... it sure takes its sweet time to actually go through all that damage. It's very slow.

Plus, am I wrong, or does the damage ticking pause when you apply a new stack? Using the axe, applying a mess of stacks with the charged spin, it feels like that orange number doesn't start ticking down until a half a second after I'm done applying stacks. If that is indeed how it works, then deary me that is awful. Ain't got nothin' on Hangover if that's the case.

[Calamity Heart]

I agree with this. I feel like scorch is close to being good to invest in, but it needs a buff.

What I would do with it is make it so that as soon as Scorch is first applied, the entire buff will run its course in exactly ten seconds. Applying more scorch won't extend or pause the duration, but it will increase the amount of health that the enemy loses every second for as long as the scorch still lasts, so continually applying scorch is a consistent DPS increase, rather than just a meager dot with a capped DPS but an indefinite duration as long as you can keep applying it.

[Bastycore]

There is another Hestia Boon that immediately resolves all Scorch damage once a threshhold is reached.

[wwwJam]

Originally posted by Bastycore:

There is another Hestia Boon that immediately resolves all Scorch damage once a threshhold is reached.

I really, really don't want another repeat of Dire Misfortune and Impending Doom. I really hope they learn from how bad Ares was in the first game and NOT make Hestia only "good" if you get a particular boon, with emphasis on that if.

[KenjiYoi]

Originally posted by wwwJam:

Originally posted by Bastycore:

There is another Hestia Boon that immediately resolves all Scorch damage once a threshhold is reached.

I really, really don't want another repeat of Dire Misfortune and Impending Doom. I really hope they learn from how bad Ares was in the first game and NOT make Hestia only "good" if you get a particular boon, with emphasis on that if.

It's vastly worse then the Ares case since while it's an any rarity boon rather then legendary or duo, it does a % of the scorch based on rarity(starting from just 50% at common). So you're not even getting the full scorch damage if it procs.

[AsianJaysus]

I was just about to post about this. Scorch is bad. Like, really bad. It's capped at 80dps and even with the legendary boon (good luck) it's only extended to 160dps. Meanwhile by world 4, it's not uncommon to see non-miniboss enemies with upwards of 3k hp, meaning it'd take about 20sec to kill a single enemy relying only on scorch. And that's BEFORE we start getting into heat challenges.

It desperately needs some combination of: at least 2x the dps at base, to scrap the RNG-dependent boon for a built-in detonation for full damage once you hit the arbitrary limit, some kind of survivability buff (maybe a new boon that gives passive 1-2hp/sec while you have Scorch active), and/or a way to passively spread the scorch debuff to more than the enemy you hit.

BUT. To top off the mess that is Scorch, the absolute worst issue with the mechanic is the fact that bosses drop the entire build up any time they teleport/dig/blink/dive/whatever. Basically anytime they become un-damageable The first time I noticed this, I had about 10k scorch damage built up on Boss 3 and was thinking "great. It's already dead, I just need to survive until IT realizes that" only for it to pop underground and wipe away all my progress. Which is total bs. No matter how you may argue, the damage was done. Like, if I had done the same amount of damage with literally any other source, it wouldn't disappear. So why should the DoT damage be any different?