Hades II

Hades II

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Ω May 8, 2024 @ 5:46am
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As a greek I am appaled by the depiction of Ancient Greek Wokology
Would it be a Mythology, I would call it that. But its not.

You want to know how ancient Greeks imagined ancient Gods? Google Image: "ancient greek sculpture Gods" or "vase painting greek gods" and you will get your answer. No, there were no shemales, drag queens, androgynous people, lisps etc. And there was no push of body diversity on the vase paintings.

Poor greeks are turning in their graves by this blatant butchering.

Seconly, there were equal male and female figures. In hades 2 there are almost no male figures, apart from the male target practice dummy and some feminine male figures that are about to be dominated by the female counterparts.

It's your game and you can call it however you want, but capitulating the lavish ancient greek mythology just to turn it into a tumblr and sell copies is no good.

Vote with your jesters and awards if you agree.

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Thank you all for your supportive messages. It has brought me tears of joy that there is still love for the Original Greek Mythology out there, by lots and lots of people. It's this universe I was raised with and seeing people trying to protect it, is great!
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Shield May 8, 2024 @ 5:48am 
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tf is "wokology" is that greek
The Hungry Werewolf May 8, 2024 @ 5:49am 
Google image Zeus showed me his PP so now I'm double offended we don't get to see it.
1917 May 8, 2024 @ 5:51am 
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Thanks for the heads up. I'm not Greek but I've visited Greece twice and have immense respect for the culture and history.

I will NEVER buy this game. It's not that devs have to always be historically accurate (dear god, if we held them to that then a lot of games would go into the wastebin), but that it's this obvious push to elevate women above men and to feminize men.

This game is basically female colonization of history and I will not support it.
Just go away with this excrement
andremeda May 8, 2024 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by 1917:
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not Greek but I've visited Greece twice and have immense respect for the culture and history.

I will NEVER buy this game. It's not that devs have to always be historically accurate (dear god, if we held them to that then a lot of games would go into the wastebin), but that it's this obvious push to elevate women above men and to feminize men.

This game is basically female colonization of history and I will not support it.
they are not pushing anything. they are showing just a narrative, just because in popular media/games men are regarded as the strong ones.
there are threads complaining about the strong women in the game, as if for so long, strong women have always existed. but again, for so long, in the media women are depicted as the weak ones.
is it such an issue that men can be feminine and not force toxic masculinity onto them? you're acting as if every men has only masculine features, and women only feminine ones.
Specific Beef May 8, 2024 @ 6:38am 
Originally posted by MortalShell:
No, there were no shemales, drag queens, androgynous people, lisps etc.

As a fraud, I am an authority. No, I have never picked up a book. I just know it, as a fraud.
Ka-mai19 May 8, 2024 @ 6:44am 
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This was the devs' answer to why the gods are so diverse in Hades 1:

“We knew going into Hades that we wanted this to be the story of a big dysfunctional family set in the Underworld of Greek myth, told from the Underworld’s point of view,” he wrote in an email. “As we discussed and researched the Olympians from canon sources, something stood out that in retrospect was obvious: They’re called the Greek gods because they were worshiped in ancient Greece, not because they themselves are ethnically Greek.” In other words, they didn’t all have to be Greek, or even white-passing for that matter.

Greece sits in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. Through trade and war, ancient Greeks came into contact with all sorts of ethnically diverse people, with Africa to the south and Asia to the east. Cultures blended, as did religions and families. What made you Greek depended on where you came from, not your color. Besides, we are talking about literal gods.

“Zeus rules all the heavens, not just the airspace over Greece,” Kasavin wrote. “Poseidon rules all the sea and land. They sprang from the Titans, who sprang from primordial Chaos, the source of all creation. So it stands to reason that the gods represent all the people of the world, at least indirectly.”
Specific Beef May 8, 2024 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by Ka-mai19:
This was the devs' answer to why the gods are so diverse in Hades 1:

“We knew going into Hades that we wanted this to be the story of a big dysfunctional family set in the Underworld of Greek myth, told from the Underworld’s point of view,” he wrote in an email. “As we discussed and researched the Olympians from canon sources, something stood out that in retrospect was obvious: They’re called the Greek gods because they were worshiped in ancient Greece, not because they themselves are ethnically Greek.” In other words, they didn’t all have to be Greek, or even white-passing for that matter.

Greece sits in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. Through trade and war, ancient Greeks came into contact with all sorts of ethnically diverse people, with Africa to the south and Asia to the east. Cultures blended, as did religions and families. What made you Greek depended on where you came from, not your color. Besides, we are talking about literal gods.

“Zeus rules all the heavens, not just the airspace over Greece,” Kasavin wrote. “Poseidon rules all the sea and land. They sprang from the Titans, who sprang from primordial Chaos, the source of all creation. So it stands to reason that the gods represent all the people of the world, at least indirectly.”

indeed

OP, Y'ALL BUILT A CITY IN AFRICA

PERHAPS YOU HEARD OF IT

QUITE A FAMOUS LIBRARY
Last edited by Specific Beef; May 8, 2024 @ 6:47am
Originally posted by Specific Beef:
OP, Y'ALL BUILT A CITY IN AFRICA

PERHAPS YOU HEARD OF IT

QUITE A FAMOUS LIBRARY

Cyrene? Apollonia? :P
Last edited by An-Average-Araminty; May 8, 2024 @ 6:58am
Jetman May 8, 2024 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Ka-mai19:
“white-passing"

... white-passing? There have been interviews with the devs on these topics before. They wanted to race, sexuality and gender swap as much as possible. They'll come up with whatever justification for it.

They've gone even further with it this time. I love their blackface on Hestia.. lol. Or whoever the old black granny is.
Last edited by Jetman; May 8, 2024 @ 6:59am
Ω May 8, 2024 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by Ka-mai19:
This was the devs' answer to why the gods are so diverse in Hades 1:

“We knew going into Hades that we wanted this to be the story of a big dysfunctional family set in the Underworld of Greek myth, told from the Underworld’s point of view,” he wrote in an email. “As we discussed and researched the Olympians from canon sources, something stood out that in retrospect was obvious: They’re called the Greek gods because they were worshiped in ancient Greece, not because they themselves are ethnically Greek.” In other words, they didn’t all have to be Greek, or even white-passing for that matter.

Greece sits in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. Through trade and war, ancient Greeks came into contact with all sorts of ethnically diverse people, with Africa to the south and Asia to the east. Cultures blended, as did religions and families. What made you Greek depended on where you came from, not your color. Besides, we are talking about literal gods.

“Zeus rules all the heavens, not just the airspace over Greece,” Kasavin wrote. “Poseidon rules all the sea and land. They sprang from the Titans, who sprang from primordial Chaos, the source of all creation. So it stands to reason that the gods represent all the people of the world, at least indirectly.”

Only in Olympics you see such impressive (mental) gymnastics
-|Nur|- May 8, 2024 @ 7:05am 
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Originally posted by Specific Beef:
Originally posted by Ka-mai19:
This was the devs' answer to why the gods are so diverse in Hades 1:

“We knew going into Hades that we wanted this to be the story of a big dysfunctional family set in the Underworld of Greek myth, told from the Underworld’s point of view,” he wrote in an email. “As we discussed and researched the Olympians from canon sources, something stood out that in retrospect was obvious: They’re called the Greek gods because they were worshiped in ancient Greece, not because they themselves are ethnically Greek.” In other words, they didn’t all have to be Greek, or even white-passing for that matter.

Greece sits in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. Through trade and war, ancient Greeks came into contact with all sorts of ethnically diverse people, with Africa to the south and Asia to the east. Cultures blended, as did religions and families. What made you Greek depended on where you came from, not your color. Besides, we are talking about literal gods.

“Zeus rules all the heavens, not just the airspace over Greece,” Kasavin wrote. “Poseidon rules all the sea and land. They sprang from the Titans, who sprang from primordial Chaos, the source of all creation. So it stands to reason that the gods represent all the people of the world, at least indirectly.”

indeed

OP, Y'ALL BUILT A CITY IN AFRICA

PERHAPS YOU HEARD OF IT

QUITE A FAMOUS LIBRARY

Yeah, ancient Greeks weren't really particular about race. They had plenty of "racial" mixing in the Seleucid & Ptolemaic empires, Alexander himself married several Persian women, etc.
Bardian Angel May 8, 2024 @ 7:05am 
Hermaphroditus is reading this post and laughing at you.
Angoril May 8, 2024 @ 7:05am 
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I am curious, as a Greek that couldn't care less about the appearance of the deities, are you bothered that the female deities don't look like MTF trans as well? You know, like the statues.

Or are you just bothered that the male deities don't look like they hit the gym 24/7 with small breaks in between only to consume copious amounts of steroids?
Ka-mai19 May 8, 2024 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by MortalShell:

Only in Olympics you see such impressive (mental) gymnastics

Are they wrong in stating that the Greek gods come from primordial chaos, which is the source for the entire world?
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