Torches are garbage tier; change my mind

[Overeagerdragon]

EXTREMELY Low damage
No knockback unless you charge
Charge takes too long to be usefull against bosses
Needs either Hestia or Demeter to stagger enemies
Special is ackward to use

Overall worst weapon in the game so far

['Strict]

Yeah I never take them anymore....it's all about Spamming the special. I don't even charge it...just constantly spam the special and hide.

[BrattyPhoebe]

Yeah, the Skulls are better magic option. I think Torches need some improvement so it should be alternative magic item, perhaps magic option that allows more mobility?

[😎Astran😾]

Yup. the only good weapons so far are the basic staff (for the range) and the axe (for AoE). The rest are irrelevant (although I didn't open the last two weapons yet)

[BrattyPhoebe]

Originally posted by Astran:

Yup. the only good weapons so far are the basic staff (for the range) and the axe (for AoE). The rest are irrelevant (although I didn't open the last two weapons yet) :lunar2019scowlingpig:

Lim and Oran are amazing when you understand how to use them. They have some of the best dps and with correct boons can be utterly devastating and they are the weapon I tend to get furthest with.

[дорогу лоутабу]

+1. Just piece of garbage. Need rework or guide “how to play” by roguelike nerds XD

['Strict]

The daggers are the ones I've got to the Sirens with a few times, the Axe I take way too much damage with cause the animations are unstoppable while also super slow.

[ToastedWaffles]

Originally posted by PaladinQuinn:

Originally posted by Astran:

Yup. the only good weapons so far are the basic staff (for the range) and the axe (for AoE). The rest are irrelevant (although I didn't open the last two weapons yet) :lunar2019scowlingpig:

Lim and Oran are amazing when you understand how to use them. They have some of the best dps and with correct boons can be utterly devastating and they are the weapon I tend to get furthest with.

yep, stack scorch on the primary attack and watch enemies turn into a blaze of death.

[NIVKX]

I do love torches. You just don't understand how it works

[LazyAmerican]

Originally posted by 'Strict:

The daggers are the ones I've got to the Sirens with a few times, the Axe I take way too much damage with cause the animations are unstoppable while also super slow.

If you get one upgrade that greatly speeds up the charge attack speed....you become unstoppable combined with the card that slows down time as you charge it. It was the most broken thing ever I went straight for health upgrades because I would just run into a room and kill everything doing whirlwind lol.

[Hasteja]

my furthest run so far was with the torches, annihilated the second boss with them.

[Retsubty]

They probably rely on upgrades. But yeah the base weapon is slow.

[Sandy]

I think all are trash except the daggers and basic weapon. And maybe axe but it's slow.
But I have the most success with daggers.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by NIVKX:

I do love torches. You just don't understand how it works :vsskull:

Then give me some tips; I would love to love them but right now, as they stand, I got to Chronus with ALL other weapons and can't even get to sirens with the torches because of their low damage output....and even on the runs I got somewhere with them it took me 3x as long

Originally posted by Sandy:

I think all are trash except the daggers and basic weapon. And maybe axe but it's slow.
But I have the most success with daggers.

Axe can be awesome if you build for straight up single hit dps... take the anvil that either increases area of dash attack OR changes your attack in a single hit; then slap on the explosion from the pliers and watch everything die in 1 hit (or 2 if elite)

[MrJane]

I did a couple runs with torches, thinking I was missing something... trying to figure them out. But yikes, they are so bad.

[KeTheBasicSlut]

just did a good run to cerberus with them with a focus on the special with hammers, demeter and hermes. honestly, like in Hades, every weapon is super stiff at first and you need to find tricks that work for you. i'll admit the attack is super super hard to consistently pull-off but you can dash and not lose your focus, so a mana increase focus and hermes + stacking DOT boons could be interesting with a good cast.