Gay people, in Ancient Greece?

[Venerable Pooh]

Oh heaven's where's my fainting couch?
I feel a touch of the vapors coming on!

[VAL]

Its more likely than you think!

[DJDiceZ]

Originally posted by VAL:

Its more likely than you think!

No, they were just very, very good friends.

[Сонний]

They were roommates

[Venerable Pooh]

Oh my gay gods, they were roommates!

[Melodia]

They pythagriated each other's theorums if you know what I mean.

[TWiZTED]

Actually, ancient Greece was well known for its gay relationships. It was normal back then. Grab any history book, and you'll be amazed.

[Drake]

ancient greek is probably the time in history where homosexuality was the most normal.
it was seen as normal and necessary due to the power dynamic at play between an older, dominant man, and a younger, submissive one.
Just 2 of same age they saw as bad xD well ancient greeks ...

[Bellesixa]

Originally posted by TWiZTED:

Actually, ancient Greece was well known for its gay relationships. It was normal back then. Grab any history book, and you'll be amazed.

You apparently missed the sarcasm

[Ayk-]

Originally posted by TWiZTED:

Actually, ancient Greece was well known for its gay relationships. It was normal back then. Grab any history book, and you'll be amazed.

It goes for many past civilizations, you will be amazed. It was just more discreet compared to today.
There are other stuff that feels inaccurate though.

Some art decisions are there probably just to satisfy the minority crowd, why hermes looks like a god from chinese myth more than greek?

[Don Lord]

Even the greeks saw getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the ass as a bad thing, so it's not like it was a rainbow paradise where men skipped down the street with streamers hanging out their buttholes.

Who cares, game looks like Tumbr vomit anyway.

[F4$hi0n$h0w]

My favorite take about Greece forced by not so smart people that it was a gay utopia land. Sorry to rain on your parade but while I agree that it was wildy acceptable and nothing shocking to pursue sexual or emotional relationship with same sex be it ancient Greece or Rome they were countries with huge slave markets. Most of the records and text capable of giving an evidence for such events points out for SA of slaves, A of younger people by older ones and straight up power dynamics.

[DarkMachine]

You seriously need to go do some serious reading and studying.

You weren’t "straight" or "gay" in Ancient Greece. Being homosexual as in anything related to being "derogatory" or "negative" was a totally unknown and foreign concept to the ancient Greeks, it was just a lifestyle that one preferred.

Homosexual relationships were very common even for men who were married to women and had children. Also, relationships between older and younger men, usually a combination of sex and mentoring were an established part of the Spartan way of life People like Plato whom incidentally also talks about them in Athenian society in The Symposium.

[Unknownsurfin]

A straw man fallacy is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw

[Unknownsurfin]

Originally posted by DarkMachine:

You seriously need to go do some serious reading and studying.

You weren’t "straight" or "gay" in Ancient Greece. Being homosexual as in anything related to being "derogatory" or "negative" was a totally unknown and foreign concept to the ancient Greeks, it was just a lifestyle that one preferred.

Homosexual relationships were very common even for men who were married to women and had children. Also, relationships between older and younger men, usually a combination of sex and mentoring were an established part of the Spartan way of life People like Plato whom incidentally also talks about them in Athenian society in The Symposium.

Your reading has been corrupted by blatant false asumptions. Its documented that the practice of young and old was seen a ritual of embarassment and extreme humilation for the individual on the receiving end generally done to the weak by powerful men, it was not just seen as a lifestyle choice it was generally done to slaves by their male owners. Some bizzare alternative history there.

[Unknownsurfin]

Originally posted by DarkMachine:

You seriously need to go do some serious reading and studying.

You weren’t "straight" or "gay" in Ancient Greece. Being homosexual as in anything related to being "derogatory" or "negative" was a totally unknown and foreign concept to the ancient Greeks, it was just a lifestyle that one preferred.

Homosexual relationships were very common even for men who were married to women and had children. Also, relationships between older and younger men, usually a combination of sex and mentoring were an established part of the Spartan way of life People like Plato whom incidentally also talks about them in Athenian society in The Symposium.

As mentioned the activity your talking about is almost exclusivily from the context of SA abuse and slavery at this time period. Bizzare you would avoid this context