Worse artstyle

[Valentine]

I don't have the game yet, but Ive seen portraits and some footage. why is the artstyle way worse in this one?

[Siegvater]

I'd differentiate between art style and execution. Hades II has a very streamlined art style - you look at an image of the game and you immediately recognize that it's Hades (II). That's awesome and I really like that they used Hades I as a base and then changed / added things to give it a nice little swirl.

Execution, however, is different and is highly dependent on personal taste. I, for one, absolutely hate the new Chaos who went from a mysterious, gloomy presence in Hades I to a generic Anime villain look...and I have absolutely no idea what the artist(s) were thinking of when they designed Hera. Awful. In general, though, I think that a lot of gods are close to Hades I and just received a visual update. And, of course, art is subjective. I am looking forward to modding and the possibility of replacing gods with modded versions.

...and yes, there is forced diversity in the game which sometimes even breaks immersion (Asian Hermes?), but also, it's 2024 and some game studios feel compelled to do it. It's just a single picture though. Yes, forced diversity is always bad, but in the end, it's just one button press and the image is gone. I won't let myself ruin a pretty good game by a handful of bad design decisions - and neither should you! :)

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Siegvater a écrit :

Execution, however, is different and is highly dependent on personal taste. I, for one, absolutely hate the new Chaos who went from a mysterious, gloomy presence in Hades I to a generic Anime villain look...

Man, what anime do you watch where the villain encapsulates the very cycle of creation and destruction with a corpse and fetus in hand?

[COOLSKELETON95]

Siegvater a écrit :

I'd differentiate between art style and execution. Hades II has a very streamlined art style - you look at an image of the game and you immediately recognize that it's Hades (II). That's awesome and I really like that they used Hades I as a base and then changed / added things to give it a nice little swirl.

Execution, however, is different and is highly dependent on personal taste. I, for one, absolutely hate the new Chaos who went from a mysterious, gloomy presence in Hades I to a generic Anime villain look...and I have absolutely no idea what the artist(s) were thinking of when they designed Hera. Awful. In general, though, I think that a lot of gods are close to Hades I and just received a visual update. And, of course, art is subjective. I am looking forward to modding and the possibility of replacing gods with modded versions.

...and yes, there is forced diversity in the game which sometimes even breaks immersion (Asian Hermes?), but also, it's 2024 and some game studios feel compelled to do it. It's just a single picture though. Yes, forced diversity is always bad, but in the end, it's just one button press and the image is gone. I won't let myself ruin a pretty good game by a handful of bad design decisions - and neither should you! :)

hermes looks the same as he did in the first one lol

[rhabdophobia]

Every time I see someone complain about Hermes being Asian in this game I wonder why nobody was complaining about it all the way back when the first game came out. Almost like it's performative nonsense or something.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

COOLSKELETON95 a écrit :

Siegvater a écrit :

...and yes, there is forced diversity in the game which sometimes even breaks immersion (Asian Hermes?), but also, it's 2024 and some game studios feel compelled to do it. It's just a single picture though.

hermes looks the same as he did in the first one lol

Alot of people didn't realize that at all. Which is just laughable.

lol hell, I saw a person saying well most people who didn't like the new chaos just didn't see the fetus at first.

I was like, that doesn't make it better, if people hating on the art aren't even spending time looking at the art.

[Siegvater]

COOLSKELETON95 a écrit :

hermes looks the same as he did in the first one lol

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hermes

I'd say that he definitely looks different, actually, and in Hades II, the artist(s?) seemingly insisted on giving him an Asian ethnicity...which is a decision you can like or dislike.

[rhabdophobia]

Siegvater a écrit :

COOLSKELETON95 a écrit :

hermes looks the same as he did in the first one lol

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hermes

I'd say that he definitely looks different, actually, and in Hades II, the artist(s?) seemingly insisted on giving him an Asian ethnicity...which is a decision you can like or dislike.

He's visibly Asian in both games, most of the difference is that he appears to be older than he was in the first game.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

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COOLSKELETON95 a écrit :

hermes looks the same as he did in the first one lol

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hermes

I'd say that he definitely looks different, actually, and in Hades II, the artist(s?) seemingly insisted on giving him an Asian ethnicity...which is a decision you can like or dislike.

He literally looks Asian right there. Just the perspective is different. He's always looked asian.

[Sir_Noob]

Ka-mai19 a écrit :

Game has 94% approval, which is an objective fact. Implying most people either like the new art or don't mind it. Or they recognize that the game is in EA, which means that things will get updated as time goes on.

That isn't what it implies at all. The recommend is a thumbs up or a thumbs down, on the whole I'd still give it a thumbs up too for being a fun game but it is worse than Hades 1 in every aspect

[Siegvater]

I disagree, he didn't and doesn't look Asian to me in Hades I while you claim he already looked Asian to you in the first game. He definitely looks Asian in Hades II. Well, it's almost like it was subjective or anything ;)

[Calamity Heart]

Siegvater a écrit :

I have absolutely no idea what the artist(s) were thinking of when they designed Hera. Awful.

What's awful about Hera? She looks fine to me. More than fine, actually. Her color scheme evokes the imagery of a peacock, which is one of her motifs and sacred animals. Her icon being the head of a scepter (also a peacock eyespot) and a notable recurring symbol in her imagery being a pair of interlocked rings represents what she's all about (marriage) pretty well.

I honestly wasn't sure what to expect from an interpretation of Hera in this game, but I feel like they did a pretty good job, thematically.

[COOLSKELETON95]

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COOLSKELETON95 a écrit :

hermes looks the same as he did in the first one lol

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hermes

I'd say that he definitely looks different, actually, and in Hades II, the artist(s?) seemingly insisted on giving him an Asian ethnicity...which is a decision you can like or dislike.

it's the exact same face and exact same skin tone lol. he's just slightly closer to the camera

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

COOLSKELETON95 a écrit :

Siegvater a écrit :

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hermes

I'd say that he definitely looks different, actually, and in Hades II, the artist(s?) seemingly insisted on giving him an Asian ethnicity...which is a decision you can like or dislike.

it's the exact same face and exact same skin tone lol. he's just slightly closer to the camera

It's actually rather alarming that people complaining about Hades 2 being more woke just never paid attention to the first game. Like, Hermes' style didn't even change lmfao.

Next thing you know, some ppl are gonna be like, Athena wasn't black. It was just the shading.

edit: he's closer to the camera now, so ppl can clearly see those asian features lololol

[Daemia]

IcemayneXXV a écrit :

Daemia a écrit :

One game was full of color, reds, greens, yellows, absolutly beautiful.

The other is bland, green and grey disgusting mess. It reminds me of a junkyard or a landfill. There is no comparisson, it's awful. Even the starting area is like night/day. For the worse.

So far I've only tried internet version to give it a quick run or two, since I won't give a cent until v1.0. But if artstyle remains as it is for the most part, no go.

Yeah, I think the art will pop heavier after 1.0 drops. I understand why people don't like it, most people would have hated playing Hades in EA because the art was also not as vibrant. I am enjoying the art since it kind of shows just how weary the gods are after being in this long battle with Chronos, but I understand people want the art to pop more. I'd be cool with some touch ups down the line.

I do like the fact that the games look so different, but it's just not my cup of tea at the moment.

But as you've said: some touch ups will happen, and I will keep my eye out on it.

[Nico]

DisturbeD a écrit :

Is a cash grab before recession

That's literally not it at all.