About the Skull

[Saito]

Is it just be or is the skull just a vastly inferior version of the gun from the first game? I appreciate the grenade launcher over the machine gun we had in Hades but I tried it with Scorch on the attack and by the time I hit Scylla my damage felt extremely lacking and I had to rely on the Dash skill more than shooting skulls only to die to Cerberus

[Deimos]

Its actually the shield. Just forget the left button exists. The downside is it doesnt block attacks outside of movment phase. Unless you fail to get at least some fat boons - its a free ticket to beat the final boss.

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Originally posted by Deimos:

Its actually the shield. Just forget the left button exists. The downside is it doesnt block attacks outside of movment phase. Unless you fail to get at least some fat boons - its a free ticket to beat the final boss.

Or do use the left button, but use the special to collect them off the ground.

[Neo NiGHTS ®]

The skull seems slow and wonky at first. Just three shots, you have to retrieve them by yourself, its special isn't very strong either and it needs to be used in its omega form to be of use.

But if you give it enough love, it's a very strong weapon and it'll become second nature to retrieve the skulls so quickly that you'll be firing them non stop.

Also I think Hestia's boon for the attack isn't the best boon (for all weapons). It's fantastic for the Omega Cast, though.

For the skulls you'll want something that gives more raw damage.

[Neon Black Interactive]

I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense to compare weapons to the ones in the first game. Regardless they're very different weapons, there are some similarities but the way they actually play isn't all that similar. The gun was very much a long range weapon most of the time that was good at kiting and such whereas the skull is more of a hybrid weapon that can function at range but performs very well at close range compared to the gun. The special is also just totally different and the gun couldn't do anything similar to it. Really I would describe the skull more as a combination of the cast and the shield from the first game with its attack and special respectively.

Edit: Should also add scorch on the attack is probably one of the worst things you can do with this weapon, definitely try other stuff.

[Artemis ❤]

Mapping Hades 1 weapons to Hades 2 weapons is complicated, if you really look at the full skull kit we see

- the Hades 1 cast for basic attack
- Hades 1 gun special for omega attack
- a dashing strike that doesn't really map to anything for the special
- charged shield bullrush for omega special

It's really a reworked cast throwback more than anything, I think the torches are probably more similar moment to moment to gun than the skull is

Also yeah as others have said, the skull is really bad for scorch. As a general rule, for a slow and powerful weapon like skull or axe you want a percentage boost on your attacks, such as aphro, Apollo, or demeter. Status or special secondary effect boons like hestia or poseidon are better suited to weapons that deal a large numer of small hits quickly like the sister blades or torches

[ser5lexx]

Originally posted by Saito:

Is it just be or is the skull just a vastly inferior version of the gun from the first game?

Yeah, love the machinegun from Hades 1. It was turning nice slasher into nice shooter. Sadly there's no such thing in Hades 2.

Skulls work surprisingly well... as a melee weapon, with bonus ability to shoot. Just run closer and start dumping skulls right at someone's face.

[pakupakuzakeru]

I love the skulls. They do high damage even without boons or magick, especially in melee. The omega special let's you do an invincible dash while hitting 50% of the map (good to apply curses, like Hitch for example).

The non omega special is almost non existent, unless you get the hammer that let's you destroy 50% armor with it. Then you can destroy 100% armor in a flash (2 button presses).

I never use omega attack because the normal one already does so much damage. Except with the hammer that shoot all shells at once.

Overall excellent weapon. Lots of fun.

Oh... And I don't see the point of comparing to Hades 1 weapons.