Stop saying No co-op, Start saying Co-Op!

[SpicyCrab]

Hades 1 is such an incredible game and it would work SO WELL FOR CO-OP. I can't get over how fun that would be.

SG has already said that Hades 2 will definitely not have Co-op. I say, BOLLOCKS TO THAT!

Give the people Co-op because it would be the coolest thing ever. Because it would be the best thing ever; and because it's what the people need and deserve.

The overall design of Hades lends itself quite well to the possibility of co-op, and this is something I have fantisized about many times and EVERYONE AGREES!

Super-Giant, don't blow this opportunity to make the best thing ever. Let's goooo! Co-Op Let's gooooo!!

[Krazyflipz]

Online coop is good/best. No reason not to have Coop. Doesn't ruin/change the solo experience. More Coop games is always a good thing!

[CERBERUS ALPHA]

There's a huge reason not to have co-op and it's that they'd have to devote an incredible amount of resources in order to properly implement it. It's not a switch you flip on or off, the entire game needs to be built with multiplayer in mind, both technically and in terms of game design. If you want Supergiant to make a multiplayer game, then ask for that game to be made some time after this one.

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

No co-op, buy!

[Rafoca]

I've played great roguelike games in co-op, such as Wizard of Legend, but they are so few.

So when I hear Hades won't have co-op it makes me sad. I like playing with friends. Also, if a game has co-op, you can always play it solo, so everyone enjoys in the end

[Rafoca]

引用自 CERBERUS ALPHA：

There's a huge reason not to have co-op and it's that they'd have to devote an incredible amount of resources in order to properly implement it. It's not a switch you flip on or off, the entire game needs to be built with multiplayer in mind, both technically and in terms of game design. If you want Supergiant to make a multiplayer game, then ask for that game to be made some time after this one.

We actually asked Hades 2 to feature co-op when it wasn't announced.

While you are right the game would cost more to the devs if online co-op was implemented, it would also potentially sell more. I mean... I know some people, myself included, that aren't going to buy because it's solo only.

The creators of Curse of the dead Gods heard the community and is now launching an online co-op game, which, of course, can also be played solo.

[Rafoca]

引用自 Neo NiGHTS ®：

Hades is a heavily story-driven game. I fail to see how they could fit a co-op mode.

Unless they made a special "arcade mode" where you would jump straight to the action ONLY, with no story involved.

But then co-op nowadays could be very tricky to implement depending on whether it would be only a standard two player mode (two controllers on the same console/PC) or if they would have to bother with online co-op and so on.

Another risky thing about adding co-op, especially on-line, is that if it doesn't work perfectly, people would give the game a Negative rating just for that...
(I mean, I've seen dozen of good games getting bad reviews ONLY because the co-op isn't perfect)

So, in the end, I think there are way more risks than benefits adding a co-op mode here.

One of the best RPG games out there actually allows for co-op: Baldurs Gate franchise, neverwinter nights and Divinity.

You can't tell me RPG games are not heavily focused on story, my man

Also, there are lots of horrible solo only games out there. Remember when Cyberpunk and No Man's Sky launched?

So, being solo or online is not a reason for a game to be bad or good. An online game can get Bad reviews because it's not working? Yes, but so a solo only game because it's bugged (last of us PC comes to mind). Solution: polish your game before launching it

[Jillas]

引用自 Rafoca：

引用自 CERBERUS ALPHA：

There's a huge reason not to have co-op and it's that they'd have to devote an incredible amount of resources in order to properly implement it. It's not a switch you flip on or off, the entire game needs to be built with multiplayer in mind, both technically and in terms of game design. If you want Supergiant to make a multiplayer game, then ask for that game to be made some time after this one.

We actually asked Hades 2 to feature co-op when it wasn't announced.

While you are right the game would cost more to the devs if online co-op was implemented, it would also potentially sell more. I mean... I know some people, myself included, that aren't going to buy because it's solo only.

The creators of Curse of the dead Gods heard the community and is now launching an online co-op game, which, of course, can also be played solo.

I guess you never played the first Hades? Not all games would benefit from co-op, the first Hades was pretty much a story-driven game, with lots of dialog after every run, and talking with NPC isn't something that you would want to do in a co-op game, so no, Hades doesn't need a co-op mode, because this game isn't just about arcade gameplay, it is about the story too! You literally asking for a co-op from a game that is part Roguelike part Visual Novel, how many Visual Novels you played in a co-op? (zero I guess?)

[Jillas]

引用自 Rafoca：

One of the best RPG games out there actually allows for co-op: Baldurs Gate franchise, neverwinter nights and Divinity.

You can't tell me RPG games are not heavily focused on story, my man

Also, there are lots of horrible solo only games out there. Remember when Cyberpunk and No Man's Sky launched?

So, being solo or online is not a reason for a game to be bad or good. An online game can get Bad reviews because it's not working? Yes, but so a solo only game because it's bugged (last of us PC comes to mind). Solution: polish your game before launching it

To be honest it's hard for me to imagine the co-op gameplay in such games that you named, I've played them all, but I didn't even know that they can be played in multiplayer, and I'm not sure how are they enjoyable in co-op.

I might be wrong about these old-school CRPG, but sometimes co-op can ruin the immersion, I have a friend who never played Half-Life 2, but he doesn't like playing solo, so the only way we could make him to complete Half-Life 2 was through a co-op mod (Synergy) and he completed it with 3 best friends, but in the end, he wasn't amazed by this legendary game...

Maybe it was because the game didn't passed the test of time or maybe because playing a singleplayer oriented game in a co-op actually ruined his experience...

[cheep crybabby hatter]

引用自 Tiger the Great：

There's one huge benefit that IMO trumps all the risks involved. There is a substantial population of players interested in co-op modes, including couch co-op mode. Winning them over boosts a product's popularity immensely, adds replayability exponentially (to a game with huge replayability factor that may seem overkill but believe me when I say that you would be surprised how quickly the numbers rise) and overall shows that the devs can listen and honor the wishes of their audience.

I've seen enough mediocre games in my time to see that ever broader appeal is not the huge benefit to players that it's cracked up to be.

This request strikes me as being a little like requesting an easy mode on Dark Souls. It could be done, it'd be (and feel) tacked on, and it'll superficially seem like a really good move, but you lose something when artistic vision is compromised to appeal to more players. The extra players will play a kind of bastardised version of the game, not the experience that the creators have carefully cultivated.

Hades is a story-driven roguelike, built around one demigod's struggle against the impossible. You could change it to a party co-op, but then it wouldn't be Hades any more.

[clar1nets?]

I’m my opinion coop might be executed like capcom made in resi6, you can start a coop session, you can save it but after the start, it can be continued only with same party so they won’t mess up storyline connection between players, I actually want to get a coop, would be cool, if separated from the single player records.

[J.]

Not every game needs to be co-op, and doesn't need it to be successful, not to mention it's not a game style that is balanced either game play or story wise for co-op.

[clar1nets?]

I’d be happy if they tried to do that at least

[SpicyCrab]

Hey considering that this is one of the most active topics on the entire discussion board; that I posted it on a lark 3 and a half months ago and people are STILL going back and forth on it. It's pretty safe to say that co-op is something people care about and are interested in.

Just a thought. Thanks for the clown points. :)

[werwolfgaming]

引用自 SpicyCrab：

Hey considering that this is one of the most active topics on the entire discussion board; that I posted it on a lark 3 and a half months ago and people are STILL going back and forth on it. It's pretty safe to say that co-op is something people care about and are interested in.

Just a thought. Thanks for the clown points. :)

Even if it IS something some want THE devs dont have any experiance in MULTIPLAYER games ud rather they make a new game where the focus in MP and get some experiance or u want them to take another 2 years to get it all right multiplayer isent just a button press u need to make sure everything syncs for both users and much more id rather they make a new game after this one thats multiplayer to get the feel for it and not risk making thair first ever sequal into a mess

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

Pls devs, no co-op.