Planning on getting it, need some answers

[anakin skywanker]

So guys, basically i want to know a few things. Simple questions - simple answers/

How well does it run? I have 3080 / R7-3700x / 32gb of 3200 ddr4
How fair is AI?
How much content is there? Mainly missions, how much time does it take to finish them?
How varied are the locations and how much replayability the game offers?

And lastly, w/o collcting pieces and bits from all around the social media. How much more content is missing atm?

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Your rig is fine.
The AI is good for AI. They will hide from you (even under beds), or come looking for you.
Several maps plus strong mod support.
Replayability like other games like this. There is no precedurally generated maps.
Good solo support with friendly AI squad.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

You were quick to pick your answer.
If you ask 100 players what they think of the AI in any game, 90+% will say they suck.
RON has 2 main competitors, Ground Branch and Zero Hour.
Ground Branch has no player AI yet. Their enemies are awful and they are in the process of completely rewriting the enemy AI. Keep in mind this game has been in development for a loooong time.
Both AI in Zero Hour are awful and if one of your helper AI dies, they perma die. You have to buy them back.
So the AI in RON is far superior to it's competition. The game runs much better than Ground Branch (I refunded for that reason and I have a 4080, both use UE4). Zero Hour runs well but uses the Unity engine. Just doesn't look as well. Likely never will.
So if you are interested in this type of game, RON beats it's competitors IMO.

[Skrain]

I can confirm that the AI is bad in lots of ways, and saying that "just because its better than X game" is pretty worthless. Its still bad, doesn't matter if another game has worse.

[Eisen]

Don´t Buy! no Update since 8 Month

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Originally posted by Skrain:

I can confirm that the AI is bad in lots of ways, and saying that "just because its better than X game" is pretty worthless. Its still bad, doesn't matter if another game has worse.

Name a tactical swat shooter with worse helper AI. Zero Hour? Nope, Ground Branch, nope. Back to my previous comment, games just complain about AI.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Originally posted by Eisen:

Don´t Buy! no Update since 8 Month

Because they are working on the final release.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Originally posted by RaNgeR:

Originally posted by ♂TheBlasterMaster™✞:

Name a tactical swat shooter with worse helper AI. Zero Hour? Nope, Ground Branch, nope. Back to my previous comment, games just complain about AI.

There wasn't an intent to compare the game to others to begin with. So what's the point?

If you can’t understand my point, I can’t help you. But you do understand it.

[Dr.]

-last game build is from Feb 23
-your pc will do just fine
-AI can be unforgiving(100m headshot) or retarded(3 enemies infront of your face, not hitting) (community mods can change that)
-map selection is not huge (community mods can change that)
-too many mods and your game wont load anymore (can reset those at the start of the game)
-expect some game crashes

Id personally say if you can get it for 25bucks, you cant do much wrong, make sure to have some friends with mics and it will be more satisfying.

[anakin skywanker]

Originally posted by ♂TheBlasterMaster™✞:

Originally posted by RaNgeR:

And once again, your point was irrelevant to begin with. The thread is about if RoN worth it. I said no, you said yes. That's about it. Anything beyond that is just trying hard to justify the game while comparing it to others, which is not the importance here.

OK let me explain in baby terms so you will understand.
Most games complain about AI no matter how good it is or how it compares to the competition. YOU.
People like you should play PvP then you can complain how bad other players are.
In this game genre, RON clearly has the best player and enemy bots and they are being improved for the final release.

I will side with the other guy who made much more sence answering my question.
I don't care how good or bad AI in say Zero Hour, im not asking if i should or souldn't buy Zero Hour here. And though I appreciate you pointing out that AI here is better than in competitiors, the real question is - is it good in RoN? And RaNgeR delivered.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Originally posted by RaNgeR:

Originally posted by ♂TheBlasterMaster™✞:

If you can’t understand my point, I can’t help you. But you do understand it.

And once again, your point was irrelevant to begin with. The thread is about if RoN worth it. I said no, you said yes. That's about it. Anything beyond that is just trying hard to justify the game while comparing it to others, which is not the importance here.

Well, the reviews agree with my opinion more than yours.
So buy the game and decide you yourself. If you don't like it, refund it.
There are a ton or video reviews also.

[shadowsc133]

How well does it run?

Ok in some areas like the lobby or early missions (165+ fps) and very poorly in others (20-30fps). It is not optimized and the GPU/CPU doesn`t seem to matter.

How fair is AI?

Goes from very bad (suspect) to completely broken (Swat and Civilians). Mods make it behave a bit better (fairer) but the core of it is rotten.

How much content is there?

14 maps, the majority with just 1 mode, a few with 2, and only 2 with all 4 modes.

Less content than before the last patch (5 maps removed) and you can run through all maps and modes in a 2hr session, so be prepared to be playing the same maps over and over, especially if you play public coop.

The modded maps are only possible if you play solo or online with friends that have the exact same maps downloaded. Modded maps there are a handful of decent ones but Devs have not released an SDK for the game, so expect issues.

Mainly missions, how much time does it take to finish them?
8-15 minutes, some can be shorter (Bomb, HR or Active Shooter).

How varied are the locations and how much replayability the game offers?

Sadly they removed many of the map variations (modes), so very limited. Unless you are ok to play the same maps over and over again.

And lastly, w/o collcting pieces and bits from all around the social media. How much more content is missing atm?

No story/campaign mode, modded maps are unusable on public servers, many modes missing for each map, no tutorial, the training center is bland, most maps are too big and unrefined for realistic scenarios, no day/night options and the day scenarios look dark while some that should be aren`t, lots of bugs, animations are scripted and immersion breaking, team communications never got improved (local is your standard channel), flashlights are terrible, lasers and nvgs useless, melee is a joke (except if you are a 60lbs female suspect hitting a fully armored swat guy), there is no built-in mission/difficulty customization etc.

TLDR: After 4 years it is still what it is... an early-access game with little to no improvements to show for. I would wait for the supposed public release (in less than 4 months?).

[shadowsc133]

Originally posted by RaNgeR:

AI is pretty broken, especially for friendly SWAT. Civilians are 50/50 on their behavior, and enemies are also unbalanced in many maps, they have somewhat still super-human reactions and can tank bullets.

Currently there are 14 maps, with 5 different game modes in total for each one (barricaded suspects, bomb defuse, active shooter, etc.) but not all maps have all game modes available. Run time depends on the size of the map and the game mode, as well as if you play solo (with or w/o the AI SWAT), with other players or with mods. Some maps you can finish in 10 minutes. Others can take you up to 45 minutes more or less.

Can't stay the game bares much replayability even with mods. But that's just me. You always start in the same location and after a while you get to know the game enough to figure it's repeating itself.

For amount of of content - it can be argued that a lot is missing from it, but content isn't the biggest issue of the game right now as (again, arguably) you can compensate on that using mods. What game is in dire need right now is a lot relied on the technical aspects.

Didn`t see your post before, it seems in line with what I think too.

[shadowsc133]

Originally posted by RaNgeR:

Originally posted by shadowsc133:

Didn`t see your post before, it seems in line with what I think too.

All good
You provided more in-depth details about the base game which I didn't really want to bother to do myself and just highlight the primary issues because it feels like a broken record at this point and after all this time RoN has been out.

Indeed

[QWAKER]

1. No issues
2. Depends. AI are too aggressive for the SWAT 4 passive style of approach. Pretty good and fair if you're willing to smoke them.
3. Missions have tons of repeatability based on how you want to approach the maps.
4. AI spawns at different locations most times
5. It's early access atm, so work still needs to be done/

[Jonboy]

I quite like the enemy AI - keeps you on your toes. The friendly AI is akin to a special needs away day.