Problem with the SLR 47

[Eyşan Kuneri]

As of now, SLR 47's 7.62x39 uses the damage curve, range, and stagger chance of 300 blackout weapons. Minus it's JHP variant doesn't have arterial bleedout chance for some reason.

I'm not saying make it better or overpowered but can the devs make this caliber unique like SA-58?

[Nyet Diem]

I'll disagree, there's no reason for it to be different (although inconsistency for the JHP effects is odd).

7.62 x 39 is nearly identical to .300 BLK, down to the grain weight and velocity. The metric spec for .300 BLK is 7.62 x 35 and the bullet choices have a better BC (which this game couldn't demonstrate the difference, there's no long range shots).

Short version, they're functionally identical outside of a different chambering/platform availability.

[Eyşan Kuneri]

Originally posted by Nyet Diem:

I'll disagree, there's no reason for it to be different (although inconsistency for the JHP effects is odd).

7.62 x 39 is nearly identical to .300 BLK, down to the grain weight and velocity. The metric spec for .300 BLK is 7.62 x 35 and the bullet choices have a better BC (which this game couldn't demonstrate the difference, there's no long range shots).

Short version, they're functionally identical outside of a different chambering/platform availability.

1- Looking identical is one thing, but the 7.62x39' case capacity is 35.6 gr H2O, 300 BLK's 26.5 gr H20 (Althought this vaguely translates into 100 FPS difference since 7.62x39 is an older round and not made within the modern calculations like 300 BLK)

2- 7.62x39 has a larger bullet (not extremely large comparing the two).
if the game sets different stats for 9mm and 45.acp, then it should differentiate these two bullets.

I am not even mentioning how idiotic the armor penetration on 300 BLK is. How can it be better than 5.56, it should be nerfed a long time ago.

I am sure that the above mentioned things needs tweaking but not sure in which way. nerf it, buff it, remake the stats, its up to the dews

[Major Fret]

Looking at the numbers there's nothing you can really do to give 7.62x39 a significant niche over .300 BLK without it being equal/the same as 7.62x51. At most you could make it incap with 1 shot JHP on about 66% of the levels (assuming the target isn't wearing armor).

This is the problem when you have so many weapons that are the same thing. Most of them end up playing the same any way so weapons either become reskins or their's a clear meta (like how the G36C and F90 have much softer recoil compared to other 5.56 rifles).

[Eyşan Kuneri]

Originally posted by Major Fret:

Looking at the numbers there's nothing you can really do to give 7.62x39 a significant niche over .300 BLK without it being equal/the same as 7.62x51. At most you could make it incap with 1 shot JHP on about 66% of the levels (assuming the target isn't wearing armor).

This is the problem when you have so many weapons that are the same thing. Most of them end up playing the same any way so weapons either become reskins or their's a clear meta (like how the G36C and F90 have much softer recoil compared to other 5.56 rifles).

The least they can do is nerfing the armor penetration of 300 and 7.62 but giving them more stagger and bleedout chance