Make beanbag shotguns less lethal

[[TUNA] BurningJustice]

Beanbags in this RON are not less-lethal. I shot one at a suspect and he died. please fix this I want something thats non-lethal and has more range than the taser or the pepper spray.

[Gunn]

Less lethal is not the same as non lethal :)

[[ATP]Flo]

Originally posted by Burning_Justice3:

I shot one at a suspect and he died.

Maybe stop shooting innocent and unarmored people from close range with a beanbag-shotgun? Go to your local weapon store and ask the dude to shoot on you with such a gun when you wear a t-shirt. Have fun. I hope you survive.

[Capnflintlock]

I don't think you can one shot people with bean bag guns unless you aim at the face, at least I have not seen it happen. I do know that the gun does damage, as does melee. If you already injured someone, it is possible that you could kill them with such a hit.

[Blisk]

no make them more lethal

[ddp3slow]

This happened a lot in SWAT 4 as well, usually from shooting them in the face lol

I feel like I even remember a story IRL of a woman who died after taking a bean bag to the eye

[0-0-Bram]

official documentation for rubber ammunition is to shoot at the floor and let it bounce up into the subject's balls
anyways i was thinking we could get a grenade launcher

[[ATP]Flo]

Originally posted by 0-0-Bram:

anyways i was thinking we could get a grenade launcher

Yeah! For the really hairy missions. :)

[Dvsilverwing ♥♡]

Originally posted by Remorse:

This happened a lot in SWAT 4 as well, usually from shooting them in the face lol

I swear I remember shooting the hell out of handcuffed people when a group of friends were playing and I don't recall them dying. I think we may have been playing the Elite Force mod though

[Ahroovi]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Originally posted by GunnDawg:

Less lethal is not the same as non lethal :)

They are the same thing.

Technically yes, but there's a reason the name has changed. Less Lethal implies that it is well, less lethal than FULL lethal. Non lethal would imply it cannot kill. which people have been finding out is not the case.

[[TUNA] BurningJustice]

Originally posted by ATPFlo:

Originally posted by Burning_Justice3:

I shot one at a suspect and he died.

Maybe stop shooting innocent and unarmored people from close range with a beanbag-shotgun? Go to your local weapon store and ask the dude to shoot on you with such a gun when you wear a t-shirt. Have fun. I hope you survive.

He was a suspect, and I didn't shoot him, my ai teamate did. He instantly died.

[[TUNA] BurningJustice]

He was also like 40 feet away.

[HolyOrangeJuice]

SEF mod for SWAT 4 also lets you drop people if you hammer them too close or too much with bean bag. Less lethal for a reason. :P

[PanVlk]

Originally posted by Dvsilverwing♥♡:

Originally posted by Remorse:

This happened a lot in SWAT 4 as well, usually from shooting them in the face lol

I swear I remember shooting the hell out of handcuffed people when a group of friends were playing and I don't recall them dying. I think we may have been playing the Elite Force mod though

I believe in vanilla SWAT4 you cannot kill people with beanbag or tasers, but in mods like SEF you can.

[Vash]

i shot a civillian that was just not complying(even after 2 beanbags) in the leg from about 20 meters away and he died :/

[Wolfsmaul-GER]

pepperball gun is actually non lethal and more fun