Is there a rifle thats Too good compared to the rest?

[RedHaze1911]

Wondering about rifle balance. Is there like a rifle that you feel needs nerfing cause its just too accurate or just makes other rifles seem irrelevant?

[H0gs_tooth]

Cant say ive run every one of them but id say theyre pretty balanced

[Pierce Dalton]

When it comes to damage, the 7.62 rifles (I think there's 2 of them) make the others look like airsoft guns. Recoil is absurd, though, pretty much impossible to use full auto with them.

[Cleric 110]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

When it comes to damage, the 7.62 rifles (I think there's 2 of them) make the others look like airsoft guns. Recoil is absurd, though, pretty much impossible to use full auto with them.

There's a few, technically. The SA58 is 7.62x51mm, the SLR47 is 7.62x39mm, and the ARN-180, DM4PDW, and LVAR are all 7.62x35mm.
The SA58 is the only one that's a full-size rifle caliber, with the highest penetration but also the heaviest recoil. Even excessive penetration, able to shoot through walls and multiple bodies easily and sometimes accidentally, nothing like putting down a suspect only to accidentally kill a civ in the next room.
The SLR47 is a heavy intermediate round but also in a fairly heavy gun, and recoil is relatively controllable. Eats armor for breakfast, without so much of the excessive full-size power of the SA58. Full-auto is pretty intense but can be tamed with practice and foregrips.
7.62x35mm is the metric measurement for .300 Blackout, and these are shortened and necked-up 5.56x45mm cases designed to be subsonic for suppressed use. The DM4 is the smallest and lightest, which means it has the most recoil (frankly way too much), the LVAR is the biggest and recoils the least, and the ARN-180 falls between the two.
All the rest of the rifles are 5.56x45mm, and while these have better armor penetration than .300BLK and typically (though not always) the lightest recoil, they have the least effect on soft targets.

[JESTER_THE_MENACE]

both pepper gun are ridiculous. spray them and it's practically instant stun despite the armor of the enemy. Especially in Commander, it is the best in every way. Add traits into it and it's OP.

[RedHaze1911]

I mean... i just tried the G36 and its an insane nail driver compared to the MK1 i usually use.
I just dont like the way it looks as much as i like the mk1. But if there was a pvp mode, id definitely only use the G36. U go try it with a combat grip, ASR brake, lazer and MICROT2. I was like damn... why isnt everyone using this...? This is almost unfair xD

[AspidZEUS]

If you want lowest recoil use G36C, F90, MCX, ARN18 or SR16 with SMFB brake and vertical grip
Combat grip does nothing on all rifles and some smgs, so use it only for cool gun holding

[pngun]

g36c - it has an OP sight SRO dot and almost no recoil if you use vertical grip with sfmb brake, so when using full auto on it 556 is enough to destroy anyone;
other good ones are lwar, arn18, mcx and f90 with same configuration but instead of using sight you need to use laser cuz the only thing better than laser is SRO dot which they dont have;
arwc, scar, sr16, mk18 are ~okay;
sa-58 and slr47 i wouldnt recommend, with recoil that bad they should always oneshot anyone but sometimes they dont, so .300 and 556 guns are still more preferable cuz easy-controlable full auto that downs with 2 shots in torso is a lot more stable;
i would say if you'll have to tryhard and do some hardest ♥♥♥♥ you ever did in the game grab a g36c with sro dot, vertical grip and sfmb brake

[Tom]

Originally posted by <MALAK>:

both pepper gun are ridiculous. spray them and it's practically instant stun despite the armor of the enemy. Especially in Commander, it is the best in every way. Add traits into it and it's OP.

beanbag shotgun is significantly better

[Ģ◊иℤ◊⚡ℤ∀муpΛй]

How do you unlock the SCAR-H ?

[JESTER_THE_MENACE]

Originally posted by Tom:

Originally posted by <MALAK>:

both pepper gun are ridiculous. spray them and it's practically instant stun despite the armor of the enemy. Especially in Commander, it is the best in every way. Add traits into it and it's OP.

beanbag shotgun is significantly better

It is but pepper gun counts as a silenced weapon meaning it has no effect on AI deciding to investigate the sound or have a civilian panic. Moreover, it has a small AoE that lingers.

[Eyşan Kuneri]

Originally posted by RedHaze1911:

Wondering about rifle balance. Is there like a rifle that you feel needs nerfing cause its just too accurate or just makes other rifles seem irrelevant?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/htmlview# take a look