Rework for No Armor + No Helmet

[Zaeld]

With the way that the game is right now No Armor is just a meme armor that people only use if they want to do a challenge run of the game. Here's a way to actually make it more useful so that more people might use it more seriously. If anyone has any further suggestions that could make it even more interesting than feel free to post your own.

No Armor Benefits
- +5% Movement speed
- Able to squeeze through gaps when No Helmet is also selected (you guys removed this feature from adams update so here's a way to re-balance and bring it back)
- You are much quieter when moving and using low/high ready

No Armor Cons
- smaller loadout selection (Keep it 9/9)
- You die faster because you have no armor on

No Helmet Pros
- +2% movement speed
- Able to squeeze through gaps when No Armor is also selected (you guys removed this feature from adams update so here's a way to re-balance and bring it back)

No Helmet Cons
- Instant death if shot in the head

[AaronAllBlacks]

No Armor, pistol/taser only I should be moving fast af

[Zaeld]

Originally posted by AaronAllBlacks:

No Armor, pistol/taser only I should be moving fast af

I agree. The less your loadout is + the lighter you are = you become much quicker. Makes sense realistically. I think the cons of no armor balance out the pros that I suggested because if you have no armor on that means you will die fast so why not give it some interesting use besides it being a meme.

[Major Fret]

None of these changes would change No Helmet/Armor from being a 'meme'. Squeezing through small gaps would be tactically unsound as you would be vunerable to whoever is on the other side. Fast movement also isn't that big of an advantage, and VOID have stated they don't want players having different movement speeds as it leads to people lagging behind.

RoN should've just stuck to Light or Heavy armor. It was simple to understand and is basically what we have now anyway. Unfortunately that ship's well and truly sailed.

[Zaeld]

Originally posted by progressively faster miniboss:

I like it. I mean, it would still be meme, but it would be a funny one.

Yeah it would still be pretty memey for sure lol. I don't want to suggest anything too crazy right now tho. I'm just trying to keep it as realistic and balanced as possible right now. I would personally find some actual use for it if they balanced it right.

[Zaeld]

Originally posted by Major Fret:

None of these changes would change No Helmet/Armor from being a 'meme'. Squeezing through small gaps would be tactically unsound as you would be vunerable to whoever is on the other side. Fast movement also isn't that big of an advantage, and VOID have stated they don't want players having different movement speeds as it leads to people lagging behind.

RoN should've just stuck to Light or Heavy armor. It was simple to understand and is basically what we have now anyway. Unfortunately that ship's well and truly sailed.

don't forget the other pro of being quieter while moving and using low/high ready. I think people are greatly under estimating just how useful this can be.

[Major Fret]

Originally posted by Zaeldˣˢ:

Originally posted by Major Fret:

None of these changes would change No Helmet/Armor from being a 'meme'. Squeezing through small gaps would be tactically unsound as you would be vunerable to whoever is on the other side. Fast movement also isn't that big of an advantage, and VOID have stated they don't want players having different movement speeds as it leads to people lagging behind.

RoN should've just stuck to Light or Heavy armor. It was simple to understand and is basically what we have now anyway. Unfortunately that ship's well and truly sailed.

don't forget the other pro of being quieter while moving and using low/high ready. I think people are greatly over looking just how useful this can be.

Which would be fine if this was Splinter Cell and you could dome people with Hollywood-style silencers no issue, but RoN is going to get loud no matter what you're doing, and at that point you're probably going to get shot at.