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Dean Jun 4, 2024 @ 11:04pm
You have been kicked by administrator
This is a problem in this Game. Yesterday I decided to play this game for 2 hours & I got kicked at least 5 times!!! And for no reason. I mean, before we even start the game & we're waiting in a lobby, host just kicks you out! One time host talked to me via microphone. Just called me by nane. I'm not fan of microphone & talking in games, so I didn't respond & he just kicked me out. But this case was just one. Other 4 cases just kicked me out as soon as I joined the lobby. This is the serious problem of the game. It's almost unplayable because of this. Hosts are clearly abusing the power. Devs should remove permission for hosts to kick out others.
Last edited by Dean; Jun 4, 2024 @ 11:06pm
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~NaRC~ Jun 4, 2024 @ 11:57pm 
I would host my own lobby. Take control and not be like them. How, I have no idea, I don't play with other peeps hardly at all. I have a friend that invites me to play once in a blue moon. But usually I play solo with AI. the world seems a better place that way. You can create your own lobby though, just go through the discussions and the how will be in there...Good luck!
PRAET0R1AN™ Jun 5, 2024 @ 12:30am 
Originally posted by Dean:
This is a problem in this Game. Yesterday I decided to play this game for 2 hours & I got kicked at least 5 times!!! And for no reason. I mean, before we even start the game & we're waiting in a lobby, host just kicks you out! One time host talked to me via microphone. Just called me by nane. I'm not fan of microphone & talking in games, so I didn't respond & he just kicked me out. But this case was just one. Other 4 cases just kicked me out as soon as I joined the lobby. This is the serious problem of the game. It's almost unplayable because of this. Hosts are clearly abusing the power. Devs should remove permission for hosts to kick out others.

I don't personally believe that removing kick abilities from hosts would be a good idea.. Because you get some players that join just to disrupt sessions and with no ability to remove them, you'd be posting here complaining about teamkillers and being unable to remove them.

I would recommend looking up the LFG section on the discord, add people from here and host your own.

Some players prefer mic only players so if you don't communicate via mic they'll kick you out.
Some only want certain nationalities to join, e.g they're German and can't understand English so obviously if they can't understand you they can't work with you so they'll kick you.

It IS their hosted session though so it's ultimately up to them if they want to allow players to join or not.

It may also be that the host is hosting simply to solo missions since there's no option to solo a mission without AI SWAT in the campaign or practice runs, Though they could just do a friends only lobby, I think they just pick whichever option is top of the list when hosting though.

All I can advise is you host your own missions, If using mods, turn checksum off in the game options which will allow others to connect whether they have the same mods or not, The game will kick them if it's a map or gameplay mod they don't have installed.
Armpit_Sweat Jun 5, 2024 @ 7:44am 
interesting topic!
i have played for over 250 hours, with 90% of the time hosting public games - this is more than enough to for the following theory:
connection randomly drops in public lobbies, where players presume they were kicked, while the host sees a bunch of players join the game for 1-2 minute and leave
here is how a typical session looks for me - i host a game, choose a map, wait for 2-3 other players to join and press "ready".
usually i have a total of 4-5 players in 10-20 seconds - nice!
But! Only 3 out of 5 press "ready", so it starts the countdown. By the time the timer goes down to 0, there can be up to 5 players leaving/joining/leaving the session.
This does not make sense! Why would someone join the game, wait for 2 minutes of countdown, and then leave the game? It happens every single session. No exceptions! It takes 5+ minutes to start a game with 3+ players.
I believe, the connection drops for a player, but the host sees the player for some time - just standing somewhere. It takes time for the host to "register" disconnect, so it looks like someone wastes 1-2 minutes waiting and then leaves the game.
I hope it makes sense and that other players share their experience itt

Also, there must be an option to force-start the game as a host, without waiting for everyone to push "ready".
The obvious bug where it shows the wrong number of players, when someone leaves the game during a countdown. So one of the remaining players need to tap "ready", for the player-counter to update. Why it is not fixed? Its been there forever! We are not talking about some overhaul-level update here, its not rocket science!
This is the same issue that Hell Divers 2 has, moderation is left to hosts. As others have said there and here, I don't think removing the ability for hosts to kick is the best option. It is their lobby, they are the server, they should be able to moderate it. I would assume most lobbies use it properly, but there are of course going to be a few that ruin things.
EZLIFE Jun 5, 2024 @ 12:42pm 
host your own game, makes everything easier.
i hosted 80%+ of my playtime and without any issues.
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Dean Jun 6, 2024 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by EZLIFE:
host your own game, makes everything easier.
i hosted 80%+ of my playtime and without any issues.
No, thanks. If I wanted to play solo, then I wouldn't even bother to play online. I want to play with others, not alone and not with bots, that's why I want to join public games. I don't want to host and wait decades when someone joins me or go solo because no one joined.

Why devs can't make servers without hosts? I mean, I'm playing Battlefield 2042 too and I click quick join and always join public servers with lots of players and obviously no one kicks out people and there's no power abuse by admins like in this game. If devs don't fix this crap, I guess I'll just completely stop playing this game and migrate to Battlefield 2042 which is a great game by the way and obviously you can play it without fearing that some je*k host will kick you out because you're not using mic or just because he can.
Last edited by Dean; Jun 6, 2024 @ 11:40am
Originally posted by Dean:
Why devs can't make servers without hosts?

They probably could, but I don't think players would be happy. Official servers mean goodbye to MP mod support outside of clientside mods, since the in-game issue has issues and requires restarts (engine issue) to apply mods. It also does cost money, which is money that is going towards servers and not towards developers, especially if they do decide to continue to expand the team. You also lose control of the server, sure there could be a vote system, but that also has issues of groups being trolls and kicking people.
EZLIFE Jun 6, 2024 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Dean:
Originally posted by EZLIFE:
host your own game, makes everything easier.
i hosted 80%+ of my playtime and without any issues.
No, thanks. If I wanted to play solo, then I wouldn't even bother to play online. I want to play with others, not alone and not with bots, that's why I want to join public games. I don't want to host and wait decades when someone joins me or go solo because no one joined.

Why devs can't make servers without hosts? I mean, I'm playing Battlefield 2042 too and I click quick join and always join public servers with lots of players and obviously no one kicks out people and there's no power abuse by admins like in this game. If devs don't fix this crap, I guess I'll just completely stop playing this game and migrate to Battlefield 2042 which is a great game by the way and obviously you can play it without fearing that some je*k host will kick you out because you're not using mic or just because he can.
weird take, if you host your own lobby you literally decide who you play with.
it highly depends when you play obviously, when you play around peak time, it takes 1min to fill up a lobby. you are trying to create problems where there are none.
even if i play very late, it takes a few minutes to find people. no patience or unlucky with timezone and region we dont know.
you have 80hrs in this game, you need to chill. its very sus that you have that issue every time.
i never been kicked from a game once and i never use my mic, but i use the chat and make callouts. either you are not telling the whole truth or maybe the problem is not the others. i can understand that some people are weird but this is not a regular experience.
Last edited by EZLIFE; Jun 6, 2024 @ 1:07pm
Charles Vane Jun 6, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
still better than '' You have been banned by administrator''
Dean Jun 7, 2024 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by EZLIFE:
Originally posted by Dean:
No, thanks. If I wanted to play solo, then I wouldn't even bother to play online. I want to play with others, not alone and not with bots, that's why I want to join public games. I don't want to host and wait decades when someone joins me or go solo because no one joined.

Why devs can't make servers without hosts? I mean, I'm playing Battlefield 2042 too and I click quick join and always join public servers with lots of players and obviously no one kicks out people and there's no power abuse by admins like in this game. If devs don't fix this crap, I guess I'll just completely stop playing this game and migrate to Battlefield 2042 which is a great game by the way and obviously you can play it without fearing that some je*k host will kick you out because you're not using mic or just because he can.
weird take, if you host your own lobby you literally decide who you play with.
it highly depends when you play obviously, when you play around peak time, it takes 1min to fill up a lobby. you are trying to create problems where there are none.
even if i play very late, it takes a few minutes to find people. no patience or unlucky with timezone and region we dont know.
you have 80hrs in this game, you need to chill. its very sus that you have that issue every time.
i never been kicked from a game once and i never use my mic, but i use the chat and make callouts. either you are not telling the whole truth or maybe the problem is not the others. i can understand that some people are weird but this is not a regular experience.
I'm telling the truth. If you don't believe, it's your problem, not mine. Literally got kicked out several time right after joining the game. I mean joined, spawened in a Police station and then got kicked in a few seconds.
Dean Jun 7, 2024 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by 𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner:
Originally posted by Dean:
Why devs can't make servers without hosts?

They probably could, but I don't think players would be happy. Official servers mean goodbye to MP mod support outside of clientside mods, since the in-game issue has issues and requires restarts (engine issue) to apply mods. It also does cost money, which is money that is going towards servers and not towards developers, especially if they do decide to continue to expand the team. You also lose control of the server, sure there could be a vote system, but that also has issues of groups being trolls and kicking people.
I really don't care about mods. Official servers would be perfect in my opinion. This kind of servers this game has is actually outdated. Most modern games use official servers nowadays and there's a reason why they're better than this kind of servers, because of this problem I'm having now. I think I'm gonna abandon this game completely because of this outdated server system. It's sad though, because I like the genre, but it's not worth it. I'll just go back to Battlefield and enjoy game without "you have been kicked by administrator" issues.
Key Jun 7, 2024 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Dean:
I really don't care about mods. Official servers would be perfect in my opinion. This kind of servers this game has is actually outdated. Most modern games use official servers nowadays and there's a reason why they're better than this kind of servers, because of this problem I'm having now. I think I'm gonna abandon this game completely because of this outdated server system. It's sad though, because I like the genre, but it's not worth it. I'll just go back to Battlefield and enjoy game without "you have been kicked by administrator" issues.
P2P servers aren't outdated nor worse than official servers. A lot of people do care about mods. Others care about changing more than the game mode and map, so official servers fail there too. Official servers also cost the devs money and often have ping issues. The P2P system works perfectly well in Deep Rock Galactic for example.

I think you are making an excuse here. BF 2042 is a fast paced COD like game. RoN is a tactical game and when you don't want to use a mic then you are probably in the wrong genre anyway, which is okay, but you try to blame it on the game.
Dean Jun 7, 2024 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by Key:
Originally posted by Dean:
I really don't care about mods. Official servers would be perfect in my opinion. This kind of servers this game has is actually outdated. Most modern games use official servers nowadays and there's a reason why they're better than this kind of servers, because of this problem I'm having now. I think I'm gonna abandon this game completely because of this outdated server system. It's sad though, because I like the genre, but it's not worth it. I'll just go back to Battlefield and enjoy game without "you have been kicked by administrator" issues.
P2P servers aren't outdated nor worse than official servers. A lot of people do care about mods. Others care about changing more than the game mode and map, so official servers fail there too. Official servers also cost the devs money and often have ping issues. The P2P system works perfectly well in Deep Rock Galactic for example.

I think you are making an excuse here. BF 2042 is a fast paced COD like game. RoN is a tactical game and when you don't want to use a mic then you are probably in the wrong genre anyway, which is okay, but you try to blame it on the game.
Nah, I'm not in a wrong genre. Mic should be optional and every game can be played without mic. Give me a break! Also, yeah, this game uses outdated servers system.
Last edited by Dean; Jun 7, 2024 @ 10:57am
Key Jun 7, 2024 @ 11:07am 
Originally posted by Dean:
Originally posted by Key:
P2P servers aren't outdated nor worse than official servers. A lot of people do care about mods. Others care about changing more than the game mode and map, so official servers fail there too. Official servers also cost the devs money and often have ping issues. The P2P system works perfectly well in Deep Rock Galactic for example.

I think you are making an excuse here. BF 2042 is a fast paced COD like game. RoN is a tactical game and when you don't want to use a mic then you are probably in the wrong genre anyway, which is okay, but you try to blame it on the game.
Nah, I'm not in a wrong genre. Mic should be optional and every game can be played without mic. Give me a break! Also, yeah, this game uses outdated servers system.
You seem to not realize that even with a mic it is complicated to communicate everything correctly in time, especially when you are new. This is not BF where you just run and shoot. There is a reason why it took so long to get "acceptable" AI, which is still far from perfect. Ever seen a SWAT team or police officers in real life without any communication? I did not.
Dean Jun 7, 2024 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Key:
Originally posted by Dean:
Nah, I'm not in a wrong genre. Mic should be optional and every game can be played without mic. Give me a break! Also, yeah, this game uses outdated servers system.
You seem to not realize that even with a mic it is complicated to communicate everything correctly in time, especially when you are new. This is not BF where you just run and shoot. There is a reason why it took so long to get "acceptable" AI, which is still far from perfect. Ever seen a SWAT team or police officers in real life without any communication? I did not.
You don't realize, it's a game not a real life. People want to chill and have fun not to simulate real life scenario or listen to some random people in game. You're not in real SWAT, it's a game, dude. Get down to earth. Don't take it too seriously. And no, I'm not new, I played SWAT4 back in old days in multiplayer before even this game existed and Rainbow Six series too.
Last edited by Dean; Jun 7, 2024 @ 11:20am
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