We need a more effective way to find civilians

[Rally]

Playing the hospital mission only to clear every room and every floor and secure the whole hospital only to be missing one civilian who could be anywhere is such a meme. It resorts to us circling the entire HUGE map mashing the F key hoping to hear an audio cue, which are often bugged anyway, while I'm left thinking "maybe the game forgot to spawn this civilian" which happens all the time anyway. It's a frustrating chore that is unrealistic and usually ends with me Alt F4ing to not take a hit to officer mental health. This is especially bad on large maps where itll take another 10 minutes at my officers pathetic excuse for a "run" to find out that the civilian doesn't exist.

[Irvandie]

I agree, they should let us call out civilians when all the suspect has been neutralized. Some yell like "Come out, it safe now" so civilians would be the one coming to us

[Wilihey]

their fix for this is the search and secure command but everytime i do it theres 2 team members who go collect one gun or cuff a body, the other 2 stay in place and they dont travel the map or anything, i think on some maps they just dont have any AI pathing to go up stairs or in certain areas, full release btw

[Gonzo850]

I have noticed that if there is a room that hasn't been searched, search & secure command won't show up. The moment i step into that last room the command is available for me. If a suspect doesn't have their hands up the AI won't find them during the search & secure.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Wilihey:

their fix for this is the search and secure command but everytime i do it theres 2 team members who go collect one gun or cuff a body, the other 2 stay in place and they dont travel the map or anything, i think on some maps they just dont have any AI pathing to go up stairs or in certain areas, full release btw

All team member will go searching. If some stay back not doing anything it's because there's nothing for them to pick up or restrain.

[Andy Mil]

college map. my ai couldnt find last civil soo i have to go all over the place myself. I think some player around here found that there will be cop coming in help u clean up but I havent found something like that yet. They said they found at that lonely house with 3 unique sus in there.

[Andy Mil]

Mah, For me kill all sus til Bring Order to Chaos then my hand won't touching left click anymore. This not EFT that i should worry for jumpscare shoot something like that

[kona]

I play until the bring order to chaos is completed. I am not going to go around the map to find evidence, tie up all the civilians. I am playing a swat tactics game not hide and seek / prop hunt.

[kona]

This game is slowly becoming more and more dead to me. When 1.0 first came out, it was a blast. The more I play, more and more cracks started to show and my disappointment just grew. Now it kinda feels like the dev team was too ambitious with the game or perhaps not skilled enough for the polish required. I mean if SWAT 4 can still feel better to play than ready or not 1.0, this does not speak well to the confidence in the game moving forward.

[Andy Mil]

not gonna lie. I havent play since shadow patches. Have to 50 gbs extra whenever update which my disk not enough is p#$!# me off soo I been off to Palworld with my gangs

[[SOS]DEV_NULL]

My idea originally was that we could call in the rest of the police once the building was clear and they could find hostages and evidence as needed.

[Rex]

Well, i thought that's what are trailers for back in the day but even trailers are not working in this unfinished game.

[Sgt. Osiris]

Originally posted by Rex:

Well, i thought that's what are trailers for back in the day but even trailers are not working in this unfinished game. :captainclown:

Trailers work in Practice Mode. They appear after you completed the Bring Order to Chaos objective. They retrieve handcuffed civilians and suspects. They do not help you find the last civilian. That's what the Search and Secure order is for, but it doesn't work most of the time.

[Rally]

So here's an interesting bug. Was playing with a friend and we were on the "find the last civ" part of the mission and he goes "wanna just leave? like who cares" and I said ok so he goes "ok im just gonna cap this civ then" and he shoots a civilian who was already arrested. Mission says "mission failed: secure all civilians" and allows us to press Y to leave the mission.

So the game is not registering arrested civilians as arrested. There is no final civilian, you've already arrested them all, the games just softlocking you due to bad coding.

[Strickers]

Had this problem with the final (docks) level - thirty minutes of wandering around, only to find the last pesky civilian hiding in a portacabin toilet, search and secure hadn't found him.

[Zeno]

Originally posted by Rally:

Playing the hospital mission only to clear every room and every floor and secure the whole hospital only to be missing one civilian who could be anywhere is such a meme. It resorts to us circling the entire HUGE map mashing the F key hoping to hear an audio cue, which are often bugged anyway, while I'm left thinking "maybe the game forgot to spawn this civilian" which happens all the time anyway. It's a frustrating chore that is unrealistic and usually ends with me Alt F4ing to not take a hit to officer mental health. This is especially bad on large maps where itll take another 10 minutes at my officers pathetic excuse for a "run" to find out that the civilian doesn't exist.

The more effective way would normally be that there are hundreds of cops on the scene and numerous groups of SWAT teams and heavily armed police officers rushing into such big building and searching it.

In this game its left to your tiny group to do....