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bmh152abc Dec 13, 2023 @ 1:50pm
Crazy AI
Enemy AI is shooting at me though walls from multiple rooms away. Seems like once I fire a round the whole map can visually see me regardless of what is in the way.
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Slayrix Dec 13, 2023 @ 10:33pm 
Unless you can find and link me multiple replays showing exactly what you mean I am just gonna chalk this up as people not wanting to accept the fact that sometimes, you just get flanked, or sometimes there is just a crack in your cover or you just don’t realize that you’re still visible to the enemy. I’ve now put 10+ hours in this update alone, split among both multiplayer and singleplayer and have not experience this a single time. Kinda weird if it’s an ai bug…
Ihatetrainyards Dec 13, 2023 @ 11:17pm 
Originally posted by Slayrix:
Unless you can find and link me multiple replays showing exactly what you mean I am just gonna chalk this up as people not wanting to accept the fact that sometimes, you just get flanked, or sometimes there is just a crack in your cover or you just don’t realize that you’re still visible to the enemy. I’ve now put 10+ hours in this update alone, split among both multiplayer and singleplayer and have not experience this a single time. Kinda weird if it’s an ai bug…
https://streamable.com/k4iyo5
If this is acceptable to you from a $50 full release game in development for almost a decade then I recommend raising your standards out of the gutter.
Fur3uR Dec 14, 2023 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by Ihatetrainyards:
Originally posted by Slayrix:
Unless you can find and link me multiple replays showing exactly what you mean I am just gonna chalk this up as people not wanting to accept the fact that sometimes, you just get flanked, or sometimes there is just a crack in your cover or you just don’t realize that you’re still visible to the enemy. I’ve now put 10+ hours in this update alone, split among both multiplayer and singleplayer and have not experience this a single time. Kinda weird if it’s an ai bug…
https://streamable.com/k4iyo5
If this is acceptable to you from a $50 full release game in development for almost a decade then I recommend raising your standards out of the gutter.
Yeah there are big issues with AI, too much to enumerate them. The biggest issue is that most of them were already present in the early access...
Sunbather Dec 14, 2023 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by bmh152abc:
Ok got a video lol AI shooting from across the map. you cant see it in the video but this shooter clapped one of my guys and there are 3 walls between him and where we were (a bathroom and a hallway)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u_x7MJ4VnU

All I can see in this video is that you are stomping through uncleared rooms like an elephant with your gun not even ready (which is probably the cause why you die a lot in this game) and then you die by a booby trap as you storm out into the corridor.

Originally posted by bmh152abc:
you cant see it in the video but this shooter clapped one of my guys

So your proof is no proof and your source is "trust me bro"?
MethLabrador Dec 14, 2023 @ 3:25am 
Originally posted by bmh152abc:
Ok got a video lol AI shooting from across the map. you cant see it in the video but this shooter clapped one of my guys and there are 3 walls between him and where we were (a bathroom and a hallway)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u_x7MJ4VnU


Watch the replay for that match and see if that's actually what happened and not something you assumed. Then post it here. That would actually be proof and not video that just shows you have assumed something without real evidence.
Sunbather Dec 14, 2023 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by Gulp:
Originally posted by Oak:
not experiencing this at all
Which means we're all playing a collective prank?

This argument works both ways since I and numerous other people in this thread don't experience the hawked around blunders or even wallhacks of the AI.
SteadyFreedom Dec 14, 2023 @ 3:31am 
Originally posted by bmh152abc:
you cant see it in the video but this shooter clapped one of my guys

So your proof is no proof and your source is "trust me bro"? [/quote]

Here is your proof

https://youtu.be/yynmXp81fVs?si=AbP2c1xKUmVQkU-m

Now stop baiting because you are not funny. The problems with the enemy AI are obvious even in mission number 1.
Unrealtairo Dec 14, 2023 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by Sunbather:
Originally posted by bmh152abc:
Ok got a video lol AI shooting from across the map. you cant see it in the video but this shooter clapped one of my guys and there are 3 walls between him and where we were (a bathroom and a hallway)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u_x7MJ4VnU

All I can see in this video is that you are stomping through uncleared rooms like an elephant with your gun not even ready (which is probably the cause why you die a lot in this game) and then you die by a booby trap as you storm out into the corridor.

Originally posted by bmh152abc:
you cant see it in the video but this shooter clapped one of my guys

So your proof is no proof and your source is "trust me bro"?

How do you not hear the AI firing at him from 3 rooms away? Idiot
Ober Dec 14, 2023 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by SteadyFreedom:

https://youtu.be/yynmXp81fVs?si=AbP2c1xKUmVQkU-m

Very nice video on the subject! I want to enjoy RON and I came back for the 1.0 release but between the removal of mission selector as it was and the return of terminator AI... I am honestly disappointed
Sunbather Dec 14, 2023 @ 4:05am 
Originally posted by Unrealtairo:
Originally posted by Sunbather:

All I can see in this video is that you are stomping through uncleared rooms like an elephant with your gun not even ready (which is probably the cause why you die a lot in this game) and then you die by a booby trap as you storm out into the corridor.



So your proof is no proof and your source is "trust me bro"?

How do you not hear the AI firing at him from 3 rooms away? Idiot

The officer is already dead in the beginning of the video. The shooting you hear is another gunfight not related to you. This also happens on mission 2. There is already a gunfight happening, that's why you were called.
76561199350753258 Dec 14, 2023 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by Sunbather:
Originally posted by Unrealtairo:

How do you not hear the AI firing at him from 3 rooms away? Idiot

The officer is already dead in the beginning of the video. The shooting you hear is another gunfight not related to you. This also happens on mission 2. There is already a gunfight happening, that's why you were called.

The video above you debunks any and all defences you have for the game, and nothing more needs to be said than what's shown in the video. That's it. I know at this point you're probably a troll, but we can just put this thing to rest. AI needs adjusting. End of story.
Unrealtairo Dec 14, 2023 @ 4:10am 
"The shooting you hear is another gunfight not related to you. "
You're on crack dude.

I've already done that mission, no there is no gunfight not related to you happening in the city apartments. You really think making up your own bs narrative about bugs with the AI having insane ESP is going to work?

As for 213 park, I had the very LAST..... AI shooting at me from INSIDE the the house > upstairs > on the complete opposite side of the house..... while I was OUTSIDE, even further than that video, 6-8 walls between us. It also started randomly while I was looking at my tablet, after 2-3 minutes gunfire just started happening and my whole team was sitting behind me.

Guess who he was trying to hit when I finally walked inside and went up there? me, with 6+ walls and an entire floor difference between us.
Last edited by Unrealtairo; Dec 14, 2023 @ 4:13am
Ibuprofen Dec 14, 2023 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by bmh152abc:
Enemy AI is shooting at me though walls from multiple rooms away. Seems like once I fire a round the whole map can visually see me regardless of what is in the way.

Game is still broken and do not come at me with it „it is realistic “. Because it is not. I had AI fire on me through at least 2 walls and a foggy glass and kill half my AI while they could not return fire because they did not see anything. Team AI is also still mostly useless. I had them breach a door and the guy with the shield managed to get a headshot. I lost 2 bots.
Most of the scenarios also seem to be vastly overblown while not making that much sense. For example, on Mindjot you have multiple hostiles on the roof. But the SWAT team does not have single sniper somewhere to take those out? 90% is just up for killing you, they often do not react to pain (7.62x51 NATO hits) and empty their mags into.

I am not familiar with US gun laws. But is it that easy that you, your mother, and your dog can buy AP rounds that pierce through 3 solid walls?

Whenever I spook the AI and they go “lets walk a few meters and empty my mag” they basically pierce through everything while already been 2m deep into cover resulting in everyone of my team getting hit.

The concept of deflecting rounds does not seem to be a thing in this game since the rounds go through walls like the no-recoil-terminator AI intents to.
I also feel that there is a disconnect between player movement and AI sprinting all over the place. The officers you play do not seem fit to service compared to the crackheads that easy you with one hand.

The bad recoil system does not help either. Everything kicks too much and the absence of a modern counter-recoil system does not help. 7,62x54R out of an AK clone does not kick as much as an AR15 in this game.

The system to peak the AI is also weak. There is no way to peak them, without them seeing you way to quickly (because you expose your arms and shoulders slowly before you can even see the enemy). There are multiple better techniques than the entirely made-up video game mechanic of just tiling your upper torso slighty (which games call leaning). This mechanic basically gets you killed since its invention when having to peak from the left since it exposes your upper head first.
Last edited by Ibuprofen; Dec 14, 2023 @ 4:22am
76561199350753258 Dec 14, 2023 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Oak:
jesus christ... one video that proves nothing and another from a YEAR ago....

You people should stop crying and go back to playing my little pony games or whatever you people do when you're not whining like little kids that can't have their ice cream before dinner.

You're ridiculous...

Wow, you people are insufferable. You have been presented with literal facts that are happening right now in-game with recreatable scenarios and problems, a video (that is still actual today) explaining WHY these are problems, and yet you are still being a gatekeeping PoS.
Unrealtairo Dec 14, 2023 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by Oak:
jesus christ... one video that proves nothing and another from a YEAR ago....

You people should stop crying and go back to playing my little pony games or whatever you people do when you're not whining like little kids that can't have their ice cream before dinner.

You're ridiculous...

Reason #1 why extroverted sensors never should've been tempted to join in on the gaming world. Can't accept facts, all typing is based on their girly emotions instead of the facts in front of their faces, toxicity. Yall need to go back to your social clubs & throwing footballs.
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