AI's friendly fire is f**king counted?

[Worst Mankind Ever]

Hey, I got pissed off because I finally done "Sinuous Trail" in solo campaign with AI without any people die, but suddenly "Friendly Fire"(!?) decreased my overall result. I just feeling unfair, I don't even fire my AI teammates, I shot every single count on suspect NPC, not AI teammates. And my weapon is beanbag shotgun, not pepperball gun, how can got "Friendly Fire"??? This time I though I will got S rank without any f**king trouble. You can say I just skill issue or something, but I really tried several times, SEVERAL F**KING TIME, not one, not two, IS A LOT TIMES!!! I just need a explain, that is it.

[Shurenai]

The AI will never friendly fire you on purpose(except if you shoot them first or execute civilians/surrendered enemies)- But that doesn't preclude You from stepping into their line of fire. It's on you to make sure you're not in their way.

[Amplifier]

There has never been an instance ever where my teammate AIs friendly fired me. They're very specifically programmed not to

Are you sure you arent using a mod? There's some mods like the Sniper or Not grenades that can cause friendly fire

[Dreepa]

SWAT AI isn't too good with the bean bag. When they are covering you close up behind you, they hit you with the beanbag shotgun from time to time. You can be perfectly still and not be moving, just covering forward, and it happens. So there's nothing you can really do about it other than ordering them away from your position.
I assume it happens with the bean bag as AI is not taking the spread into account, so the single raycast determining LOS is clear, but the spread of the weapon still makes them hit you.

[Big_E']

just leave ur AI at the begining and then solo everything

[Kashra Fall]

You likely through a flash or something and it just chipped your AI. Gotta be careful.

[Worst Mankind Ever]

Thanks for everyone help me figure out. For real, I think they should turn off AI's"Friendly Fire" count on final result on solo campaign, that is really unfair.

[Waaas3]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

The AI will never friendly fire you on purpose(except if you shoot them first or execute civilians/surrendered enemies)- But that doesn't preclude You from stepping into their line of fire. It's on you to make sure you're not in their way.

Well, that's not really true. On Reddit there are a lot of people complaining about the problem that your AI teammates shoot you because they stand behind you and just start to shoot while you where just about to check a corner. It's BC your ai can see through the walls as well and if there's a suspect behind the wall and your in the way (without knowing anything cause you don't have Wallhack) and your teammate will kill you while shooting the enemy and you can't do anything against. They even tried it with tater and this ♥♥♥♥ happend

[Andy Mil]

They can hurt u or others if one of them get shot. They will turn on wallhack stuffs trying to back paddle each others and u

[Worst Mankind Ever]

Hmmmm, I forgot they have wallhack problem too, that make more sense now. Thanks for explain. :)

[SkebbZ]

You can take 0-3 friendly fire minus points from flashing/stinging teammates. Probably gas/pepper also, if they don't have gas mask, though I can't remember.

[Andy Mil]

I been one of WW1 gas gang. ur AI can not be effect by gas. They used to pre 1.0 but people talkin bout it and dev fix it. i think the fix was about either before or after P90 update

[Regulator XIII]

have you tried having your team breach , ive only had a few instances because i didnt fix their load outs

[NorthGoneSouth]

Originally posted by Waaas3:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

The AI will never friendly fire you on purpose(except if you shoot them first or execute civilians/surrendered enemies)- But that doesn't preclude You from stepping into their line of fire. It's on you to make sure you're not in their way.

Well, that's not really true. On Reddit there are a lot of people complaining about the problem that your AI teammates shoot you because they stand behind you and just start to shoot while you were just about to check a corner. It's BC your ai can see through the walls as well and if there's a suspect behind the wall and your in the way (without knowing anything cause you don't have Wallhack) and your teammate will kill you while shooting the enemy and you can't do anything against. They even tried it with tater and this ♥♥♥♥ happend

This is exactly what happened to me just now. I was playing sins of the father, and was checking a corner for an enemy that I could hear. The AI tried to wall bang him through the corner and I died. As I died, the sound came over the radio from TOC saying “what the hell are you doing??” That’s the usual voice line for when you friendly fire, one of your teammates or kill a civilian. Seeing as how I didn’t kill a civilian, and I was also dead with my team behind me, the only logical conclusion is that the AI teammates shot me in the back of the head while trying to wall bang the suspect through the corner. I was the only one that had direct line of sight down the hallway around the corner.

This kind of problem really really sucks because that was the best run. I had had of that map so far and I died due to no fault of my own.

[Waaas3]

Originally posted by NorthGoneSouth:

Originally posted by Waaas3:

This kind of problem really really sucks because that was the best run. I had had of that map so far and I died due to no fault of my own.

The best way to avoid this in the current game state is leave your AI at the beginning and do it on your own or play the game in multiplayer. Its sad and make the game a lot harder but you don't get teamkilled anymore.

[bUrnIt]

Hi friend, AI swat do friendly fire when underfire and gettting hit = desorientation and reflex make them offset their aim while pulling the trigger... It's an acciedent.

I got S rank with Friendly Fire BUT 0 penalties with pepperballs.
(SWAT AI did the friendly fire, not me. + to add: SwatAI did hit other SwatAI and myself.)

Now why is it counting penalties...
Is it 0 penalties for swat ai mistakes only ?

Maybe it was bash ?(player only) or pistols (Swats AI, if ammo) ?
or is it really the beanbag ? someone need to test approved this.

I can say that I have many times got hit by flash/sting/gas and never got penalties or friendly fire from it. I was doubting with stingers, but it seems improbable.

ref.: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138743040