PSA: This is a POLICE game, not a SEAL TEAM SIX game.

[North_Dumpling]

I know this isnt explicitly stated by the game given lack of proper introduction and tutorial in a game, but please at least issue order to surrender as well as collect evidence and report suspects instead of blindly firing at them all the time.

[Pindie]

You must be new here.

Edit: in case it's unclear what I mean.
The AI will NEVER surrender by just shouting at them.

[Kashra Fall]

Publicado originalmente por Pindie:

You must be new here.

Edit: in case it's unclear what I mean.
The AI will NEVER surrender by just shouting at them.

Uh... Yeah they will. Want video proof?

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Karshra with the 1 out 50 times save...YEEE

Seriously though it's a very rare set of things aligning to allow it to happen. the most common one is running out of ammo in the mag and being surrounded but by then....damage is done

What I want is the ability to takedown a stunned suspect...I'm tried of this one man ammo sponge ♥♥♥♥ taking 100 pepperballs 6 tasers, 40 punches, and a lot of cursing. damn neon tomb.

Though I guess that adds up to the authentic ready or not experience. You are completely at the mercy of AI and have no control over anything, even your own AI, roll that die you compulsive gamblers

[[I.MI] MILLER]

Then again... once you S rank the mission you can Seal Team 6 it from then on. B)

Just need a mod that removes shouting from AI and S2K like the enemy AI does.

[Mesond]

Publicado originalmente por Kashra Fall:

Publicado originalmente por Pindie:

You must be new here.

Edit: in case it's unclear what I mean.
The AI will NEVER surrender by just shouting at them.

Uh... Yeah they will. Want video proof?

Con confirm. Suspects surrender when shouted at.

They're more likely to surrender if flash banged, gased, or even hitting them at close range with melee. You can tell if a suspect has low moral if they have their gun down and are backing off. Ducking back into cover and tossing a flash bang work there. Taser too if you got it.

Most people stand out in the open instead of ducking into cover and complain about the AI. Tip: Use. Cover. It's saved my life plenty of times. Even hugging a wall in a hall can work when under heavy fire.

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Publicado originalmente por Veldaz:

Con confirm. Suspects surrender when shouted at.

They're more likely to surrender if flash banged, gased, or even hitting them at close range with melee. You can tell if a suspect has low moral if they have their gun down and are backing off. A quick flash bang and ducking into cover works there. Taser too if you got it.

Most people stand out in the open instead of ducking into cover and complain about the AI. Tip: Use. Cover. It's saved my life plenty of times. Even hugging a wall in a hall can work when under heavy fire.

To be fair...non of those are "just getting shouted at"

This means you did nothing but show up.

[Quiet]

the game has great potential but the majority of the playerbase and the way they choose to play the game ruins any sort of immersion or tactical strategy the game has. people refuse to communicate, almost every team i'm in has everybody splitting up on their own because everybody in the game has main character syndrome and think they're John Wick, just to get shot in the face by an AI and ragequit leaving us down a man and an officer's body that needs to be located. on top of that people are simply allergic to playing behind a shield guy, as a shield main its hilarious watching someone push past me into a room just to get turned into red paste by an armed suspect around the corner, if only they had some dude with a big as ♥♥♥♥ shield on the team that was going to go in first and draw fire, oh well. lastly people are gigantic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, whenever a gunfight ensues people panic and start backpedaling directly into their teammates behind them, obstructing their line of sight and preventing them from shooting back. great game, ♥♥♥♥ players.

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Publicado originalmente por Entity:

Children, this is what a liar looks like.

Actually I got what he was saying. and it is VERRRRY rare a suspect just surrenders from no outside actions like flashbanging or running out of ammo

[Mesond]

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Publicado originalmente por Veldaz:

Con confirm. Suspects surrender when shouted at.

They're more likely to surrender if flash banged, gased, or even hitting them at close range with melee. You can tell if a suspect has low moral if they have their gun down and are backing off. A quick flash bang and ducking into cover works there. Taser too if you got it.

Most people stand out in the open instead of ducking into cover and complain about the AI. Tip: Use. Cover. It's saved my life plenty of times. Even hugging a wall in a hall can work when under heavy fire.

To be fair...non of those are "just getting shouted at"

This means you did nothing but show up.

If I don't shout with spacebar the SWAT AI will regardless. Either way they get shouted at.

Unless they're "combat ready" (gun raised already and ready to shoot). You can guess waht happens then.

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Publicado originalmente por Veldaz:

If I don't shout with spacebar the SWAT AI will regardless. Either way they get shouted at.

But did they surrender from that? or did you have to do something else?

[IanH]

I've not encountered at single suspect AI "who is actively shooting at me" surrender just by me shouting back at them.

I can however get them to surrender using flash, pepperball, gas, taser, stinger grenade and melee, but they MUST have stopped shooting first BEFORE the surrender command will work.

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Publicado originalmente por Entity:

ANOTHER FAKE STATEMENT EXPOSED

No it's not. Show me it?

In all my 50 hours now of play I have only seen it happen once....

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Publicado originalmente por Veldaz:

Most people stand out in the open instead of ducking into cover and complain about the AI. Tip: Use. Cover. It's saved my life plenty of times. Even hugging a wall in a hall can work when under heavy fire.

I do but I still die. From AI full sending with ACTUALLY 360 degree perception...(Because fighting daredevil is actually a real thing) or just straight up shooting through solid steel with a 9mm SMG

I think you forgot wallbanging AI is a thing

[Mesond]

Publicado originalmente por 🆂🆈🅽🅿🅰🆃🅷🆈:

Publicado originalmente por Veldaz:

If I don't shout with spacebar the SWAT AI will regardless. Either way they get shouted at.

But did they surrender from that? or did you have to do something else?

Depends. Some will surrender. Many won't. Each suspect has their own moral.

Sometimes they'll back off slowly with guns not yet raised. Happaned with 2 suspects at once in valley of dools once. I couldn't get a flashbang out fast enough so the swat AI shot them.

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Publicado originalmente por Veldaz:

Sometimes they'll back off slowly with guns not yet raised. Happaned with 2 suspects at once in valley of dools once. I couldn't get a flashbang out fast enough so the swat AI shot them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqIfDNSQ-1I&t=27s

yup those look like suspects that will surrender when you yell at them.

my point is they WON'T surrender even when getting out seems impossible. You had to use an outside force.

Honestly most surrenders in this game just don't make sense. You'd have to force capture most of these guys in real life. Amos is a great example, or ANY suspect in Neon tomb.

But the Bolton security, what do they gain from doing security and opening fire on a police officer with a camera to prove it? Their going to jail now.

That is great example of mission that being careful and not gun ho should lead to a relatively organized raid. They gain NOTHING by being insane

A mission that would make sense is the ends of the earth, they have something to lose by not standing their ground. but some may give up once they see others in their family dying anyway. making all the fighting worthless. MAKES SENSE

Basically some enemies SHOULD give up when yelled at. Some shouldn't

They don't do this, everyone will fight to last possible second. Using every gun in every pocket before they give up completely