Wall hacks make it unplayable

[Smit]

It's been said a lot, but... the fact the AI tracks and shoots you through walls is just making it unplayable. Not fun at all. I can look past many of the other flaws, would still be a nice shooter, but the blatant full auto wall hacking is just absurd. Never seen this in a game before (forget about real life lol, I don't even care, I just want a playable game).

Anything around that disables at least that?

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

only mods but they most of the time just make the ai braindead =/

[XallZall]

Trying to do Neon Tomb Less Lethal S Rank, its practically impossible AI has so many cheats/Bugs going on that its pure luck based.

They wallhack and fire through walls and kill you. Amour is almost useless against their weapons, the suicide bombers bug out half the time unwilling to surrender and blow up.

They see through CS gas and the smallest gaps and detect you and fire on you that way.

Not only that, there is pressure to move fast as one of the suspects can kill themselves with a handgun and therefore mess up the S Rank.

All Grenades only partially work, sometimes they work sometimes they don't,

AI has insane inhuman reaction times sometimes where you cannot react at all, I can see them almost like in slow motion where my mind sees them and the signals from my brain to react just are passing through to my fingers and before I can hit the key / mouse buttons I am already dead, and this happens at times when I already know a suspect is behind the door and am ready to preemptively fire on them with Bean Bags, however even with all that knowledge their reaction times sometimes are so insanely high that it does not matter.

They also often accidentally kill each other,

Not much we can do atm, but hope that these issues get fixed.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originalmente postado por XallZall:

Trying to do Neon Tomb Less Lethal S Rank, its practically impossible AI has so many cheats/Bugs going on that its pure luck based.

They wallhack and fire through walls and kill you. Amour is almost useless against their weapons, the suicide bombers bug out half the time unwilling to surrender and blow up.

They see through CS gas and the smallest gaps and detect you and fire on you that way.

Not only that, there is pressure to move fast as one of the suspects can kill themselves with a handgun and therefore mess up the S Rank.

All Grenades only partially work, sometimes they work sometimes they don't,

AI has insane inhuman reaction times sometimes where you cannot react at all, I can see them almost like in slow motion where my mind sees them and the signals from my brain to react just are passing through to my fingers and before I can hit the key / mouse buttons I am already dead, and this happens at times when I already know a suspect is behind the door and am ready to preemptively fire on them with Bean Bags, however even with all that knowledge their reaction times sometimes are so insanely high that it does not matter.

Not much we can do atm, but hope that these issues get fixed.

it`s ok i did it with a friend in around 1 1/2h the only tricky part is the big bar/dance area upstairs and the pool room.

[XallZall]

it`s ok i did it with a friend in around 1 1/2h the only tricky part is the big bar/dance area upstairs and the pool room.

Yeah I typically go up their first because thats what makes or breaks the entire map.
Been trying it solo now for 2 days without any luck. The best I got was a A+ the one guy shot himself and ruined the S Rank. So damn close. Its ridiculously difficult due to the bugs / wallhacks.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originalmente postado por XallZall:

it`s ok i did it with a friend in around 1 1/2h the only tricky part is the big bar/dance area upstairs and the pool room.

Yeah I typically go up their first because thats what makes or breaks the entire map.
Been trying it solo now for 2 days without any luck. The best I got was a A+ the one guy shot himself and ruined the S Rank. So damn close. Its ridiculously difficult due to the bugs / wallhacks.

everybody keeps talking about the guys killing themselfs i have never seen that exept for a video but i think it`s only the named enemys that can do that.

[XallZall]

Originalmente postado por Troja:

Originalmente postado por XallZall:

Yeah I typically go up their first because thats what makes or breaks the entire map.
Been trying it solo now for 2 days without any luck. The best I got was a A+ the one guy shot himself and ruined the S Rank. So damn close. Its ridiculously difficult due to the bugs / wallhacks.

everybody keeps talking about the guys killing themselves i have never seen that except for a video but i think it`s only the named enemies that can do that.

There is specifically one guy the leader that may flee and he shoots himself in the head. More often than not you dont even see him do it, you just hear a single gunshot and find him later dead.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originalmente postado por XallZall:

Originalmente postado por Troja:

everybody keeps talking about the guys killing themselves i have never seen that except for a video but i think it`s only the named enemies that can do that.

There is specifically one guy the leader that may flee and he shoots himself in the head. More often than not you dont even see him do it, you just hear a single gunshot and find him later dead.

jea the named enemys like voss and the guy that runs the "talent" agency maybe even the streamer dont know they most of the time just rush me like the normal enemys

[mace95]

this is whats keeping me from buying the game tbh, sounds brutal lol

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originalmente postado por DuckieMcduck:

Originalmente postado por mace95:

this is whats keeping me from buying the game tbh, sounds brutal lol

Only consider getting this on a huge sale, you'll most likely have to apply third party mods to make it worth playing.

In the meantime you can get SWAT4 on GoG for like $5 which is feature complete and is the original experience RoN thoroughly failed to mimic.

jea they upped the price pretty hard i payed 30€ and i still feel that 30€ would be more then enough.

[IanH]

Not just walls but also glass (which we can't see through as well as the AI can) and also CS smoke too, which completely blinds a human but is see through for suspects.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originalmente postado por IanH:

Not just walls but also glass (which we can't see through as well as the AI can) and also CS smoke too, which completely blinds a human but is see through for suspects.

thats why there are no smoke grenades XD

[lowBlow]

About to uninstall.

[IanH]

Originalmente postado por Troja:

thats why there are no smoke grenades XD

Ah I didn't realise that you are new to the game.

If you use CS grenades to incapacitate suspects (its way better than flashbangs I find) then the CS gas looks like smoke, which you as a human can't see through (because its smoke) but the officer and suspect AI can still see through it.

So yes, there's is "smoke" in the game.

[[BLK] Telu]

Yeah, CS gas, it's for those who love to shoot while seeing nothing.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originalmente postado por IanH:

Originalmente postado por Troja:

thats why there are no smoke grenades XD

Ah I didn't realise that you are new to the game.

If you use CS grenades to incapacitate suspects (its way better than flashbangs I find) then the CS gas looks like smoke, which you as a human can't see through (because its smoke) but the officer and suspect AI can still see through it.

So yes, there's is "smoke" in the game.

yea i can work as a smoke but you cant replace a true smoke grenade with something like cs gas they would last longer and cover a bigger area and even then the ai doesn`t care damn it`S still a 1/9 if the npc just straight up wallhacks you to death