People who think Ides of March is hard clearly haven't progressed to the later maps

[Amplifier]

Seriously, how do people think Ides of March is even hard? Yes, it is hard per se... but compared to the rest of the subsequent maps, Brisa Cove is like a cakewalk. A freaking cakewalk.

There's Sins of Father after that which is another hotel mission that's even larger and with way more rooms to clear. There's Greased Palms that is outright vast and incredibly easy to get sniped and flanked on. And if you think Greased Palms is hard, you clearly haven't tried the Port Hoken. And if you think Sins of Father is hard, you clearly haven't tried Relapse.

Although not always, mostly every subsequent map is more or less actually harder than the previous one.

[Walt von Keisel-Walther]

Wait till you get to the Night club with the many suicide bombers who can absolutely shred the save all civilians objective.

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by Walt von Keisel:

Wait till you get to the Night club with the many suicide bombers who can absolutely shred the save all civilians objective.

I thought that one was quite okay. The club has enough closed end corridors there except for the 2nd level and back exit.

The worst kind of levels are those with corridors with rooms all over on both sides or outdoor open air maps, because there's no more linearity and the enemies can flank you from multiple openings. That's why people would initially find Ides of March hard

[Reggae Sauce]

It's the same with all the players who complain. I beat Ides Of March first time, and people complain about the first g o d d a m n level having aimbot and all sorts of made up nonsense. Put more hours into the game and you will be a competent player, stop expecting to be good the first time you play...
The A.I doesn't cheat, you are just bad at the game...

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by Reggae Sauce:

It's the same with all the players who complain. I beat Ides Of March first time, and people complain about the first g o d d a m n level having aimbot and all sorts of made up nonsense. Put more hours into the game and you will be a competent player, stop expecting to be good the first time you play...

I'm currently working on Relapse and made it almost all the way. No AI mods installed or anything. All the levels are def possible to beat so long as you're just aiming for max A+ and not S rank. The trick is to rely more on your teammates.

My strategy is to usually take the lead in the first portion of the map 'cos there's little loss at this point when I can restart easily. Then mid-way, I'll slowly relinquish control and let my AI teammates lead the room clearings. 3/4th way into the map, I'll be at the back now ordering my teammates around. Worse case is I lose 1-2 of my men, but at least I'd near guarantee my own survival and beating the level by then with an A grade at least. The AI teammates can skillfully kill most enemies they encounter on their own.

[Reggae Sauce]

Originally posted by I suck at shooting:

Originally posted by Reggae Sauce:

It's the same with all the players who complain. I beat Ides Of March first time, and people complain about the first g o d d a m n level having aimbot and all sorts of made up nonsense. Put more hours into the game and you will be a competent player, stop expecting to be good the first time you play...

I'm currently working on Relapse and made it almost all the way. No AI mods installed or anything. All the levels are def possible to beat so long as you're just aiming for max A+ and not S rank. The trick is to rely more on your teammates.

My strategy is to usually take the lead in the first portion of the map 'cos there's little loss at this point when I can restart easily. Then mid-way, I'll slowly relinquish control and let my AI teammates lead the room clearings. 3/4th way into the map, I'll be at the back now ordering my teammates around. Worse case is I lose 1-2 of my men, but at least I'd near guarantee my own survival and beating the level by then with an A grade at least. The AI teammates can skillfully kill most enemies they encounter on their own.

Sorry but most players of this game want to kill all the bad guys THEMSELVES, they are not interested in teamwork or coorporation.
Strategy, you say? Most players of this game don't know what that is. They want to shoot every bad guy and win every level. People play this game like it's COD and expect some sort of reward from it, it's a strange phenomenon.

[Pindie]

You can brute force with heavy armor. That seems to be the strat for Neon Tomb. I notice no difference in movement speed since base speed is so slow anyway there is no Rainbow Six speed possible.

[MMMM(O_O)]

Brisa is where you either learn to use the shift to slow-walk or give up and go to the forums to complain.

There are some places that need to be fixed though, like the suspects having LOS and shooting through the blinds from the outside patio area.

[Pindie]

Originally posted by MMMM(O_O):

Brisa is where you either learn to use the shift to slow-walk or give up and go to the forums to complain.

There are some places that need to be fixed though, like the suspects having LOS and shooting through the blinds from the outside patio area.

Haha no. You just blitz trough the halls once and wedge all doors, then enter and clear one room at a time never letting your guys run too deep in.

[𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner]

Originally posted by MMMM(O_O):

Brisa is where you either learn to use the shift to slow-walk or give up and go to the forums to complain.

I don't even think that much. I've beat the map pretty consistently just walking around. It does however teach you that if you are going in loud, you should be ready for a loud response.

Taking it slow, not really slow walking, and just clearing room to room without spamming C2 or deployables isn't so hard. And if there is a situation you really have to use em, just be ready for the rest of the map to wake up.

[Major Issue]

Funny how people still defend this flawed broken AI marking others being CoD players when this BS AI is much easier in "run and gun" CoD playstyle than tactic style. Yes, it's night, raining, leaning 1 pixel over a corner, enemy shoots in 1 millisecond straight headshot at 50 meters. Totally realistic, 1 ms is enough to spot who is it, if it's enemy, aim and shoot. Been playing SWAT4 since 2005 and this is the most broken AI I've seen. SWAT AI total tragedy, constantly stuck, not being able to do anything, running into wrong doors, automatically cuff suspects in the middle of open door or open area... same great stuff.

[ureaditwrong]

No doy, it's because Brisa is so bad no one wants to progress beyond it lmao

[Quill]

Originally posted by Walt von Keisel:

Wait till you get to the Night club with the many suicide bombers who can absolutely shred the save all civilians objective.

There's only 2

And one of them can be a Civvie

[☠ Asasin ☠]

So far most of the game has been a breeze except the stupid post office/warehouse and now I'm stuck on Relapse. Actually just cleared all hostiles for the first time, except then I couldn't find the remaining civilian(s) so of course that was a waste of an hour.

[Gli7ch]

S'd Relapse, Sins and Port I know are doable I just cant. Carriers of the vine is another annoying one that is doable yet rng once again. Greased Palms only issue is the long gun wielding dudes concentrated in the warehouse and Ides isnt too bad if you can control the people running around

[Quill]

Originally posted by ibuprofen™:

S'd Relapse, Sins and Port I know are doable I just cant. Carriers of the vine is another annoying one that is doable yet rng once again. Greased Palms only issue is the long gun wielding dudes concentrated in the warehouse and Ides isnt too bad if you can control the people running around

I've found once the tower is clear the map becomes a LOT easier. Issue I've found in Pubs is after the main lobby everyone rushes the Courtyard and gets wiped

When you start clearing the left side of the building/Greenhouses some of the enemies who are in the Court Yard or would of gone in there to engage you get filtered to you in a much more manageable environment

But Greased Palms is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥