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SouthboundSoul Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:11am
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The Human Traffickers are behind everything in the game
Every single gun. Every single drug. Every single piece of CP. All of it ties back to the Human Traffickers. They are the main baddies of the whole game.

The Spider emblem is theirs. It marks their property. The eight legs on the spider are human figures, but that's not just it. The spider symbolises their influence. Each leg is like a different arm of their operation.

They supply guns and drugs to the criminals of Los Suenos, and in return, those criminals kidnap people (mostly women and kids) off the street and provide them to the syndicate.

In the port map, you can find paperwork that shows many of the victims are kids. This is definitely connected to Voll and Brixley's porn ring. The level name The Spider doesn't refer to Brixley, but is instead a strong indication that they are part of the organisation.

You can't tell me Brixley was only supplying kids to Voll and there was no one else involved. That dude had dozens of drums in his basement, all (presumably) filled with dead kids.

The Human Traffickers aren't just white slavers. They are the closest thing to evil.
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Griselda Littlefoot Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:17am 
ok
Kleo ツ Dec 27, 2023 @ 12:32pm 
Think bigger friend, think FISA, think USIA, the First Cohort.

https://imgur.com/a/J5qvAnH
Hody Dec 27, 2023 @ 1:39pm 
It is implied FISA is in on it or at least corrupt enough to do "their own investigation" which can really mean anything.
Klax Dec 27, 2023 @ 1:59pm 
Why is a white slaver different than a non-white slaver. Is it worse to be a white slaver?
SouthboundSoul Dec 27, 2023 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by Klax:
Why is a white slaver different than a non-white slaver. Is it worse to be a white slaver?

They aren't worse, but they are white slavers by definition because they enslave mainly white people.


Originally posted by Kleo ツ:
Think bigger friend, think FISA, think USIA, the First Cohort.

https://imgur.com/a/J5qvAnH

Yes, the USIA are involved. The Cult are aware of the traffickers and probably many members are former victims of theirs.
Pindie Dec 27, 2023 @ 8:57pm 
You're forgetting Letha Obsession. The guy might be crazy but he knows something methinks.
Jamesinator Dec 27, 2023 @ 9:15pm 
ok ok. Human traffickers are bad and one of the worst things and it fuels the hate in every bullet I fire. But you lost me at "white slavers" as if the rest of the world including black people haven't enslaved anybody lol
Evil? Surely, but labeling race? If I said Black slavers people would lose their ♥♥♥♥ lol

I don't see race I kill everybody who enslaves anybody. Oh and pedophiles. They are great targets. Life becomes very fun when you realize you can treat amber alerts like bounties...
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Kleo ツ Dec 27, 2023 @ 9:36pm 
Originally posted by SouthboundSoul:
Originally posted by Klax:
Why is a white slaver different than a non-white slaver. Is it worse to be a white slaver?

They aren't worse, but they are white slavers by definition because they enslave mainly white people.


Originally posted by Kleo ツ:
Think bigger friend, think FISA, think USIA, the First Cohort.

https://imgur.com/a/J5qvAnH

Yes, the USIA are involved. The Cult are aware of the traffickers and probably many members are former victims of theirs.
Essentially it's Providence all over again. You've played Hitman 3, it covered similar themes but on the backend of political intrigue and you should know how deeply ingrained Providence was relative to your original sentiments regarding the root cause of all of these issues.

You could even draw comparisons between the ending of 3 with Agent 47 and the choice you as a player get to make with the container in Hide and Seek only in RoN you don't really get a choice and this could be fair play because RoN's story has not met its conclusion yet.

Point is, people working alongside these organizations either start asking hard questions that they won't like the answers to and will definitely put them in jeopardy if they continue to press OR they keep their head down, shut their mouth and keep on keeping on. The latter is how evil takes root, when righteous men stand by and do nothing.

Where Hitman deals with the cloning angle from Agent 47s perspective, RoN appears to be dealing with the brainwashing angle via Judge though at this juncture it could also be that Judge is a clone just like 47 as well but there's nothing to support that yet outside of basic speculation as to why Judge is able to keep his ♥♥♥♥ together compared to your other operators, could merely be the brainwashing component in addition to extensive black ops training prior to his integration into the LSPD as a sleeper. Both of these characters are you, the player.

A lot of people don't like it when you pair these themes with reality, they are too radical, to political, too "conspiratorial" as its been coined for most and understandably so but both of these games and many more heavily draw from machinations already long in play within real life. Most will come looking for answers they don't actually want, as hilarious as that is.
Queen Niijima Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:09pm 
All I had to know that everything isn't as it seems is when I looked at what the Cult was really up to and the hostile response the FISA (FBI) had when Judge started to question their orders. Everything else kinda fell into place for me. Agent Adams, the ramblings the Ghilie Suit guy (forgot his name) was saying, and possibly the overall state of LS and the USA as a whole...

They needed this chaos to instill their version of order.

Originally posted by Kleo ツ:
Essentially it's Providence all over again.

You know what? It might as well be. Hell, Dr. Green (the therapist guy) might even be there to help keep David (Judge) in the dark. Question is: Who or what will make him finally switch sides? As far as we are aware, he has no one else out there like Diana or Lucas Grey is to Agent 47. If he is not careful, D Platoon might be the ones kicking down his own door.
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SouthboundSoul Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by Queen Niijima:
All I had to know that everything isn't as it seems is when I looked at what the Cult was really up to and the hostile response by the FISA (FBI) had when Judge started to question their orders. Everything else kinda fell into place. Agent Adams, the Ghilie Suit guy (forgot his name) and possibly the overall state of LS and the USA as a whole.

They needed this chaos to instill their version of order.

Carriers of the Vine is my favourite mission, I think. After I arrested or killed the cultists, took their leaders into custody, I found that room. It made me feel like part of the system that failed those women. Part of the machine.

This game isn't copaganda after all. It really does make you ask questions.
SouthboundSoul Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:25pm 
Originally posted by Jamesinator:
ok ok. Human traffickers are bad and one of the worst things and it fuels the hate in every bullet I fire. But you lost me at "white slavers" as if the rest of the world including black people haven't enslaved anybody lol
Evil? Surely, but labeling race? If I said Black slavers people would lose their ♥♥♥♥ lol

I don't see race I kill everybody who enslaves anybody. Oh and pedophiles. They are great targets. Life becomes very fun when you realize you can treat amber alerts like bounties...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery

White slavery is literally a term for what this is. Do some research and educate yourself.
It is a legal term and likely the charge the suspects would be charged with;

"The modern legal term applies more narrowly to sexual slavery, forced prostitution, and human trafficking, with less focus on the race of victims or perpetrators."
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Queen Niijima Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:39pm 


Originally posted by SouthboundSoul:
Originally posted by Queen Niijima:
All I had to know that everything isn't as it seems is when I looked at what the Cult was really up to and the hostile response by the FISA (FBI) had when Judge started to question their orders. Everything else kinda fell into place. Agent Adams, the Ghilie Suit guy (forgot his name) and possibly the overall state of LS and the USA as a whole.

They needed this chaos to instill their version of order.

Carriers of the Vine is my favourite mission, I think. After I arrested or killed the cultists, took their leaders into custody, I found that room. It made me feel like part of the system that failed those women. Part of the machine.

This game isn't copaganda after all. It really does make you ask questions.


I just now also remembered the plot twist of the original Crackdown. Sure, you were going after some very vile criminals but it was revealed at the end that you just made the world worse than it was. It was more in your face in a comic book kind of way but same level of deception here. But RoN is more subtle and grander than just one man ruling the world in the guise of law and order.
Last edited by Queen Niijima; Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:40pm
SouthboundSoul Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:44pm 
Originally posted by Queen Niijima:
Originally posted by SouthboundSoul:

Carriers of the Vine is my favourite mission, I think. After I arrested or killed the cultists, took their leaders into custody, I found that room. It made me feel like part of the system that failed those women. Part of the machine.

This game isn't copaganda after all. It really does make you ask questions.


I just now also remembered the plot twist of the original Crackdown. Sure, you were going after some very vile criminals but it was revealed at the end that you just made the world worse than it was. It was more in your face in a comic book kind of way but same level of deception here. But RoN is more subtle and grander than just one man ruling the world in the guise of law and order.

The Human Traffickers also seem inspired by The Greeks from The Wire, who were doing the same thing (Trafficking sex slaves, puppeteer the criminal underworld of Baltimore, based in Europe, received protection from the FBI.)

Despite the name, many members of the Greeks were from Eastern Europe and spoke Russian.
Rex Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:15pm 
Also, it is heavy implied that Judge is involved in some kind of MK Ultra super solider mind control program. He is being sent to SWAT as lead for reasons we do not know yet. Plus, the main suspect "Gerard scott" in a lethal obsession seems to know Judge and he previously worked for the USIA as an analyst.
Originally posted by Pindie:
You're forgetting Letha Obsession. The guy might be crazy but he knows something methinks.

He's ex-USIA, of course he knows something. He literally did it to draw Judge out to him, so he can "see the truth".
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