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Why make AI team in story TK you
Please tell me what the point behind the decision was to make the AI TK you if you accidentally shoot a civ. Literally awful.
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Haven't had this happen to me.
Quill Dec 26, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen fan:
Haven't had this happen to me.
It only happens if you shoot them or civilians
Originally posted by Quill:
It only happens if you shoot them or civilians

Yeah.. I am not sure what the threshold is, I don't think they'll kill you if you kill a civi that's in crossfire the first time. But I know they'll 100% ♥♥♥♥ you up if you try to mass kill civilians, or people handcuffed in general.
Originally posted by Quill:
Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen fan:
Haven't had this happen to me.
It only happens if you shoot them or civilians
I think I shot my team by accident and they didn't kill me, but just yelled at me.
It's probably a homage or something taken from SWAT 4.
In SWAT 4 your AI teammates would literally kill you if you WILLINGLY killed two of them because they interpreted you as going rogue/crazy and were going to kill them, so...they shoot you in self-defense.
And since it only triggers if you kill one or two of them? Probably a smart move xD
infini Dec 26, 2023 @ 1:54pm 
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in any game in my life. It's just unbelievable! I killed a suspect after he shot some team members and surrendered, and my team took me down! Completely nonsensical. If the game aims for realism, they should at least allow us to run. Can't we run in real life? Instead, the character walks as if he had ♥♥♥♥ his pants. And now being taken down by your own team (actually this is not realistic at all), it's ridiculous.
Last edited by infini; Dec 26, 2023 @ 2:48pm
A Lonely Prince Dec 26, 2023 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen fan:
Originally posted by Quill:
It only happens if you shoot them or civilians
I think I shot my team by accident and they didn't kill me, but just yelled at me.
I'm pretty sure the threshold is literally like 1 bullet. I only shot my team once so far, never killed any but never got TKd by that. I got TK'd TWICE so far because I accidentally killed a civ in crossfire and the other time because a guy killed 3 of my teammates so I "executed" him and the last guy in the team killed me for it. I sure hope someone makes a mod for this ♥♥♥♥ to be removed.
Last edited by A Lonely Prince; Dec 26, 2023 @ 2:39pm
Cmdr. Lumpus Dec 26, 2023 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by infini:
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in any game in my life. It's just unbelievable! I killed a suspect after he shot some team members and surrendered, and my team took me down! Completely nonsensical. If the game aims for realism, they should at least allow us to run. Can't we run in real life? Instead, the character walks as if he had ♥♥♥♥ his pants. And now being taken down by your own team (actually this is not realistic at all), it's ridiculous.
You're not supposed to execute surrendered civilians or suspects. That's not how you do things.
Originally posted by infini:
And now being taken down by your own team (actually this is not realistic at all), it's ridiculous.

idk man, i feel like if you go rogue on a mission your team might put you down if they cant restrain you. I bet there's some guidelines for it in actual SWAT units - now I'm curious
Last edited by Q̴̡̼̽̒̕u̸̘̪̾͊̚͜e̴; Dec 26, 2023 @ 4:55pm
Carbon Dec 26, 2023 @ 5:03pm 
Hmm...a heavily armed guy with body armor killing innocent people. Kinda describes the guys SWAT is supposed to be stopping.
A Lonely Prince Dec 26, 2023 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by Delta 0-6:
Originally posted by infini:
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in any game in my life. It's just unbelievable! I killed a suspect after he shot some team members and surrendered, and my team took me down! Completely nonsensical. If the game aims for realism, they should at least allow us to run. Can't we run in real life? Instead, the character walks as if he had ♥♥♥♥ his pants. And now being taken down by your own team (actually this is not realistic at all), it's ridiculous.
You're not supposed to execute surrendered civilians or suspects. That's not how you do things.
This is a GAME. which is played to have fun. Getting TKd by bots because you shoot 1 guy that surrendered / civilian isn't exactly fun. Like there's no way the terrorist that shot 3 of my officers is going to leave the scene alive lmao.
Last edited by A Lonely Prince; Dec 26, 2023 @ 5:25pm
Originally posted by A Lonely Prince:
Originally posted by Delta 0-6:
You're not supposed to execute surrendered civilians or suspects. That's not how you do things.
This is a GAME. which is played to have fun. Getting TKd by bots because you shoot 1 guy that surrendered / civilian isn't exactly fun. Like there's no way the terrorist that shot 3 of my officers is going to leave the scene alive lmao.

So you should be able to just kill everyone you see on sight? This is a GAME. You should be able to write your own rules!
I'm sure its either a bug or you're blowing it out of proportion. Either way, wait for a patch, find a mod or write one yourself.
PS I've accidentally laid out civvies on multiple occasions and had no issue. Stop executing people.
Last edited by Q̴̡̼̽̒̕u̸̘̪̾͊̚͜e̴; Dec 26, 2023 @ 6:03pm
Carbon Dec 26, 2023 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by A Lonely Prince:
Originally posted by Delta 0-6:
You're not supposed to execute surrendered civilians or suspects. That's not how you do things.
This is a GAME. which is played to have fun. Getting TKd by bots because you shoot 1 guy that surrendered / civilian isn't exactly fun. Like there's no way the terrorist that shot 3 of my officers is going to leave the scene alive lmao.

So...you think it's fun to kill the innocents in the game? Interesting.

Maybe you're just looking for more targets? Try a mod...one where the suspect spawns are increased.

Either way, all games have rules.
A Lonely Prince Dec 26, 2023 @ 6:44pm 
Originally posted by Q̴̡̼̽̒̕u̸̘̪̾͊̚͜e̴:
Originally posted by A Lonely Prince:
This is a GAME. which is played to have fun. Getting TKd by bots because you shoot 1 guy that surrendered / civilian isn't exactly fun. Like there's no way the terrorist that shot 3 of my officers is going to leave the scene alive lmao.

So you should be able to just kill everyone you see on sight? This is a GAME. You should be able to write your own rules!
I'm sure its either a bug or you're blowing it out of proportion. Either way, wait for a patch, find a mod or write one yourself.
PS I've accidentally laid out civvies on multiple occasions and had no issue. Stop executing people.

You can check the issue i'm talking about yourself in like 2 minutes. Start the game, load up a mission in story mode and kill 1 civilian that's handcuffed or a surrendered terrorist or whatever and you're going to get killed by the AI teammates within 0.1 seconds.|

As you've said, it's a game and we should be able to write our own rules or play the way we want. But the devs aren't letting us play the way we want, It's ridiculous. It's like if you were playing Fallout or Skyrim and the game insta-kills you because you killed an unarmed NPC.

Another game I can think of that limits you killing NPCs is Tom Clancy's Wildlands / Breakpoint, It lets you kill a certain amount of NPCs / civilians before it insta-kills you and respawns you. But it doesn't straight up punish you like RoN after killing exactly 1 person that either surrendered or is a civilian. So imo this takes the fun, and yes I mean FUN out of the game when you can't even do what you want without the game punishing you for it. Like not being able to run wasn't already bad enough but getting TK'd by your own AI teammates???
A Lonely Prince Dec 26, 2023 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by Carbon:
Originally posted by A Lonely Prince:
This is a GAME. which is played to have fun. Getting TKd by bots because you shoot 1 guy that surrendered / civilian isn't exactly fun. Like there's no way the terrorist that shot 3 of my officers is going to leave the scene alive lmao.

So...you think it's fun to kill the innocents in the game? Interesting.

Maybe you're just looking for more targets? Try a mod...one where the suspect spawns are increased.

Either way, all games have rules.
Brother, get off your high morality horse about killing "innocents" In my specific instance I was talking about accidentally killing a civ AND most importantly killing a "bad guy" after he killed 3 of my teammates but then decided to surrender. Ain't no-one going to let that waste live after that lol and neither am I.

But anyways, the easiest way around this "issue" and poor game design is to load up the game in coop with some buddies. Then we can run around killing everything that moves because why not.
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