Ides of march sucks

[Sonic Boomer]

It's not that the map is impossible by itself.

It's the requirement to arrest 3 suspects that make it sucks. Hell, in swat 4, incapacitated suspects counted towards arrests if I recall.

Here, I try to gas, tase, etc. I always put myself in horrible positions to try to arrest someone and I get shot in the face.

It doesn't help that the throw mechanic is super obtuse. Having a slight idea of where I'm throwing flashbangs and such would help.

[Armpit_Sweat]

you know what else sucks about Ides of march? you dont get any unlockable customization items when you finish it with "S" rating

[Gonzo850]

I kill everyone walking the hallways and I block all the doors. Once everyone is locked inside their rooms I use breaching charges and gas to overwhelm and arrest a few suspects. Gas seems to have a bigger radius so it works out most of the time even if I miss the center of the room.

[SkebbZ]

Originally posted by Armpit_Sweat:

you know what else sucks about Ides of march? you dont get any unlockable customization items when you finish it with "S" rating

Hmm? Don't you get the silly Harry Potter glasses and a tattoo?

[The Infamous Cloaker]

Originally posted by Armpit_Sweat:

you know what else sucks about Ides of march? you dont get any unlockable customization items when you finish it with "S" rating

Wrong, you do. You get the round sunglasses and one of the tattoos

Ides is also rather easy to get S on compared to the real hard maps (Greased Palms, Relapse for two of them)

[SkebbZ]

Ides is just a wedge map. Spam wedge on everything, clear one at a time, profit.

[Sonic Boomer]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

I kill everyone walking the hallways and I block all the doors. Once everyone is locked inside their rooms I use breaching charges and gas to overwhelm and arrest a few suspects. Gas seems to have a bigger radius so I works out most of the time even if I miss the center of the room.

gas doesn't seem to work. Suspects always seem to be in rooms where gas doesn't reach them.

[Mara Jadewind]

Those who can't dance blame the dance floor.

[Vazc0]

Originally posted by Sonic Boomer:

It's not that the map is impossible by itself.

It's the requirement to arrest 3 suspects that make it sucks. Hell, in swat 4, incapacitated suspects counted towards arrests if I recall.

Here, I try to gas, tase, etc. I always put myself in horrible positions to try to arrest someone and I get shot in the face.

It doesn't help that the throw mechanic is super obtuse. Having a slight idea of where I'm throwing flashbangs and such would help.

you can use non lethal weapons to get the arrests and aiming grenades is very precise. just use the thumb of your left hand as an indicator. the tutorial even teaches you how to throw nades in tiny windows/openings.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Sonic Boomer:

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

I kill everyone walking the hallways and I block all the doors. Once everyone is locked inside their rooms I use breaching charges and gas to overwhelm and arrest a few suspects. Gas seems to have a bigger radius so I works out most of the time even if I miss the center of the room.

gas doesn't seem to work. Suspects always seem to be in rooms where gas doesn't reach them.

And some of the rooms are connected inside. Sometimes I would breach one room with smoke but I would get engaged by the suspects on the other non smoked room through an open door.

Sometimes I would wand the door and wait for a suspect to be nearby so I know they take smoke. Then I knock him out with the breach explosion.

[Sonic Boomer]

suspects also have wayyyy too much suicidal tendencies. I had one that surrendered. had 3 swats looking at him just for him to reach for his sidearm as I was about to arrest him. Jesus christ, freaking idiot ruined my 3 arrest objective.

[SkebbZ]

Originally posted by Sonic Boomer:

suspects also have wayyyy too much suicidal tendencies. I had one that surrendered. had 3 swats looking at him just for him to reach for his sidearm as I was about to arrest him. Jesus christ, freaking idiot ruined my 3 arrest objective.

Keep shouting at them or they will do that. The game seems to track "time since last shout" for surrendered suspects. Possible this affects it.

[Sonic Boomer]

oh and guess what: Suspects faking they're dead don't count towards 3 arrests.

I was about to give this game an 8, but after being stuck on this dumb mission, this is dropping to a 6.

[Sonic Boomer]

Originally posted by SkebbZ:

Originally posted by Sonic Boomer:

suspects also have wayyyy too much suicidal tendencies. I had one that surrendered. had 3 swats looking at him just for him to reach for his sidearm as I was about to arrest him. Jesus christ, freaking idiot ruined my 3 arrest objective.

Keep shouting at them or they will do that. The game seems to track "time since last shout" for surrendered suspects. Possible this affects it.

you're probably right, and this is completely stupid. Game seems to want players to use cheese tactics as much as possible.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Sonic Boomer:

Game seems to want players to use cheese tactics as much as possible.

It really feels that way when trying to S rank these levels. The only level that I was able to S rank with believable tactics and strategies was Ends of the Earth. For every other S rank I got I was forced to use cheesy gamer tricks and play in a very unrealistic manner.

[Sonic Boomer]

do I need to arrest these 3 guys to advance to the next mission? If not, I'm going guns blazing in my next attempt.