VALLEY OF THE DOLLS

[sloburn]

Are there supposed to be more bodyguards than there are party guests? Who would have ever thought that I would have 10 suspects surrendering in a windowed staircase? It feels like a party thrown by and for bodyguards. Bodyguards that yell "DONT LET EM GET TO VOLL" and proceed to murder him just to shoot at me. Love it. 10/10 would pepper-ball again.

[keefypants]

For me this mission was very jarring, to have literally every single guard yell something along the lines of 'i just want to support my family', 'send my money to my family', 'i just need the money for my family', then 2 milliseconds later try to pull a quickdraw on a whole swat team looking at him. Its really really dumb.

[Roy]

There is a list of guards on duty in the level somewhere and the list is alarmingly long for a "pool party".

[sloburn]

i like the ones that stand in cs gas and have no reaction to the snot and tear inducing chemical entering the lungs.

[Roy]

Originally posted by sloburn:

i like the ones that stand in cs gas and have no reaction to the snot and tear inducing chemical entering the lungs.

You should try the "No crack" AI mod.
I normally don't ever use mods in any game as i prefer to play as the game is intended, but somehow this mod is closer to how the game mechanics should work than vanilla.

Doesn't prevent unlocks or achievements and it almost completely fixes superhuman AI behaviour.

[sloburn]

the best response from a guard that I have received was "im so sorry i dont know what got into me" after he just killed four heavy armored cops with one 30 round clip of 9mm.

[Roy]

Originally posted by sloburn:

the best response from a guard that I have received was "im so sorry i dont know what got into me" after he just killed four heavy armored cops with one 30 round clip of 9mm.

Lmao "oh pardon me i didn't mean it".

[sloburn]

Originally posted by Roy:

Originally posted by sloburn:

i like the ones that stand in cs gas and have no reaction to the snot and tear inducing chemical entering the lungs.

You should try the "No crack" AI mod.
I normally don't ever use mods in any game as i prefer to play as the game is intended, but somehow this mod is closer to how the game mechanics should work than vanilla.

Doesn't prevent unlocks or achievements and it almost completely fixes superhuman AI behaviour.

I will check it out but like you i prefer the game to be played as intended however its hard to believe that this is honestly how it was intended. This launch has been fun and the designs of some of the redone maps are incredible, but my looming question is, why is Valley of the Dolls comparable to Carriers of the vine in terms of resistance and difficulty regarding non lethal. Not even considering that you can be headshot on Carriers of the vine when the assailant has there back to you in low ready.

[sloburn]

is it to much to ask that the developers give me the fix to something outright obvious than receive it from a modder?

[Roy]

Originally posted by sloburn:

is it to much to ask that the developers give me the fix to something outright obvious than receive it from a modder?

Yeah i know how you feel mate i honestly postponed the mod for so long but after installing it (which is easy and quick btw its like 3kb and doesn't overwrite anything) the game was finally enjoyable.
It's borderline unplayable without it imo, since the AI behaviour is just broken altogether.

IF you end up trying it i suggest the "cracked but sweet" variant, it's the second hardest keeping accuracy somewhat close to vanilla while still fixing the rest of broken AI.

[Sheriff of 177013]

Originally posted by keefypants:

For me this mission was very jarring, to have literally every single guard yell something along the lines of 'i just want to support my family', 'send my money to my family', 'i just need the money for my family', then 2 milliseconds later try to pull a quickdraw on a whole swat team looking at him. Its really really dumb.

The best part is that the post office mission has the accomplice being listed as a civilian because she's unlikely to cause problems due to having three children.
I guess the T-800s populating the city have simulated families but forget to actually value them in their engagement calculations.

[Globeparasite]

Originally posted by Roy:

There is a list of guards on duty in the level somewhere and the list is alarmingly long for a "pool party".

if i had barrels full of children in my basement you can i'd have twenty guards around during a party