this is ridlicous

[[TW]Morris Lee #FixTF2]

https://streamable.com/34m6ir
look at this BS
taking a pepperball to the head and still able to sidestrafe at mach speed and dome a officer's head

[[TW]Morris Lee #FixTF2]

Originally posted by AZRAEL:

anyone else do the first mission in training and find that your swat team couldn't even get through the FIRST DOORWAY? great start guys...if i didn't already have 600 hours prior to release i would have probably immediately requested a refund. any reading think that is harsh, wait till you get stuck in rooms, hallways, and stairwells because the AI is too stupid to navigate.

if you're talking about 4U gas station I recommend going to the right(remember to report the dead homeless guy at the start first) to the freezer
and then go through the convenient store part of the gas station first then to the other side toward the bathroom
then head toward staff area since that place have more cover and then use your weapon to shoot through the glass if you can see them

[[TW]Morris Lee #FixTF2]

Originally posted by AZRAEL:

Originally posted by BananaChumpus:

You idiot, it's not about being unrealistic.

They are talking about guy getting hit in the face by a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ peper ball and not being affected by it whatsoever.

was the suspect HAF on meth?

i don't think so, i played this level before and i didn't see any evidence of drug on the map, and beside the methhead doesn't appear until Twisted nerves(which is the level after this

[luklp23]

Originally posted by TWMorrislee:

taking a pepperball to the head and still able to sidestrafe at mach speed and dome a officer's head

the beanbag shotgun is a lot better for cqb than the pepperball guns. the beanbags actually stun the suspect giving you the chance to deploy taser, other gadgets or follow up shots to reduce his morale enough that he will drop his weapon and surrender. i recommend to only use the pepperbal guns for longer range maps and also to spray them with multiple bullets in a row and don't wait a bit after your first shot. you are literally complaining about the ai being broken because you don't know when to use which weapon properly. yes, the ai is broken. but you wasted all the advantages you had.

[killjoy]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Originally posted by Master Sportsman:

The AI clearly reacts to getting hit. Look at the dust cloud on a freeze frame. It's coming off the NPC. The AI literally goes "OWWW" and then turns and shoots. That was a hit my guy.

So he hit around his chin area and not his head so I am still correct that he missed.

This is not unrealistic. He is using a pepper ball and than whines when he gets killed by a suspect, you used non-lethal vs lethal and the suspect with lethal; came out on top

Breh are you really in a Seal Team? You seem Tacticool.

[Buntkreuz]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Originally posted by Master Sportsman:

The AI clearly reacts to getting hit. Look at the dust cloud on a freeze frame. It's coming off the NPC. The AI literally goes "OWWW" and then turns and shoots. That was a hit my guy.

So he hit around his chin area and not his head so I am still correct that he missed.

This is not unrealistic. He is using a pepper ball and than whines when he gets killed by a suspect, you used non-lethal vs lethal and the suspect with lethal; came out on top

You die on the wrong hill there.
The Ai is known to just pack hits from any gun no matter what.
I had a guy surrendering and while 3 of us pointed a gun at him while another handcuffed another thug, he stood up to grab his gun and fight.
That alone is already a sign of bad AI coding, but since i knew the AI is bad i expected this to happen and instantly shot the guy in his upper chest (unarmored).
He needed 4 hits until he fell over, managed to stand up and grab his gun even pointing to shoot while he was hit from an assault rifle on 1 metre distance several times.

The AI just chucks off hits.
Yo ucan see this often happening with pistols.
I recently pumped over 10 shots with a Five Seven into one guy and he was going down, then stood back up again and continued to fight.
Its ridiculous.


You want to die on the hill defending a game that has objective problems.
This isnt opinion we debate here, this is factual issues with game mechanics, balancing and lacking quality.

He shot his head in the video, its not a miss, its just the game being bad by either ignoring clear hits due to bad hitbox registration, bad balancing or anything else.
He hits, but AI doesnt care and thats why you have like 300 people a day on the forum rightfully complaining about it.
Its dumb and it makes it a far worse game.

Especially for a game with the goal of being authentic.
An unarmored thug standing up from a surrender position while having 3 swat officers pointing guns on him is already insanely bad coding, but a guy ignoring a headshot is as ridiculous.

[envLight]

I was having several situations where's i use flash stinger right on the AI and it completly ignore it

[Buntkreuz]

I just entered the "puppet" mission and shot a guy 7 times into his leg with an AR 7,62mm until he dropped and was dead.
I wanted to get him to surrender and i assumed a shot leg would drop him down and be injured but alive.
I shot 3 times, he crumbled, then shot back and i shot 4 times more.

For a game about Swat tactics thats literally the dumbest thing ever and deserves a negative review.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Originally posted by laaloopy:

Am I reading this right?
Did this guy just say the chin is not part of the head structure?

The chin is not your head. People don't call your moth a head.

Man ended up with a choice between saying:

"Oh, that did smack him right in his mouth. You're right, my bad."

Or

"Nah on a technicality the round went at a 45 degree angle on the perpendicular light radius around the circumference to the chin so technically my horrid take was actually a good take and everyone else is wrong."

I respect that he went down fighting.

[laaloopy]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Originally posted by laaloopy:

Am I reading this right?
Did this guy just say the chin is not part of the head structure?

The chin is not your head. People don't call your moth a head.

I know not everyone knows the definition of body parts buddy so let me clear it up for you, the head is defined as "the upper part of the human body, or the front or upper part of the body of an animal, typically separated from the rest of the body by a neck, and containing the brain, mouth, and sense organs."

So with that in mind, yes even if it did hit the chin, that is a headshot, thank you.

[Mehrunes Dagon did nothing wrong]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Originally posted by laaloopy:

Am I reading this right?
Did this guy just say the chin is not part of the head structure?

The chin is not your head. People don't call your moth a head.

the head is the neck up LOL

[Kainey]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Watching the video you missed.

Maybe you should watch better cause the first ball is a hit

[THROBNAR]

Originally posted by Chris Madison:

Originally posted by BananaChumpus:

You idiot, it's not about being unrealistic.

They are talking about guy getting hit in the face by a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ peper ball and not being affected by it whatsoever.

The fact that you have to call me an idiot proves that I am correct.

Llike we haven't seen people in real life not being affected by pepper balls.

So if I boot it up right now and shoot the traffickers on Rust Belt 7 times in the eyeball (the iris is part of the eye) like I have done before not doing anything. Would that be enough for a call to change something maybe?

[Kashra Fall]

I've walked into the mist of the pepper ball from a teammate before, it isn't immediate. You acted too quickly and didn't let the stuff take effect. We even tested it in the training area vs the suspect there. It takes a moment.

[Bukkacracy]

Originally posted by TWMorrislee:

https://streamable.com/34m6ir
look at this BS
taking a pepperball to the head and still able to sidestrafe at mach speed and dome a officer's head

You were obviously using AP pepper balls. You need to use the JHP pepper balls if you're going to shoot unarmored areas.

[$kippingrhyme]

i just wish shouting didnt jolt your gun up and Down. I Get cops do that but when you got a guy or 10 ( with this Game) in your face and its set for them to react to your shout you just get domed before you can line up the shot