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I used the revolver with a laser (as people have done).
I used NVG's (as I've seen multiple people do).
I used AI squadmates with ONLY ammo and shields (as I've seen someone do).
AI squadmates arrested all perps and bagged all evidence. I did order some to do it since the AI are stupid and just wait for the suspect to get back up (not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weapon).
I grabbed the two primary objectives myself, as AI can't do that (not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weapon).
The only thing I've yet to see anyone say is if they had AI peak doors for traps. Are we just supposed to get lucky when we open doors (also, not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weapon)?
Why the ♥♥♥♥ does anything but your revolver for YOU matter? This is stupid, but not surprising considering the description doesn't even have the proper mission name.
There isn't a single accurate source for what does and doesn't work.
I would try one more time. Kill one suspect with a revolver. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how the game counts you using a specific weapon. Let your AI team do the rest. Don't cuff anyone, don't use the mirrorgun, shield, etc.
Edit: Just did this. Shot 3 suspects. Didn't pick up any evidence myself. Hands never left my revolver. No achievement.
KoS all the suspects and at the end, order the AI to clean up the area. sometimes the AI might kill themselves with the trip-mines, not sure if it counts against the achieve.
Way out west
https://youtu.be/KxTxfQJIFvQ?si=dphlUy-hzsRfr95K
Disallowed:
helm, shield, A.I. commands even hold position, tablet, gadgets, attachments, primary ammo.
Allowed:
A.I. any weapon even lethal!
A.I. suspects kills
A.I. cuffs on suspects or civilians
A.I. evidence securing
Magnum with any ammo
What did not work for me.
1) Command to A.I. to rush every door with the shields and without ammo. I took down all suspects with the magnum. I had a shield on the back, the heavy armor and a helmet.
2) Held shield and magnum in hands. Used non-lethal pepper guns for A.I.
The map is easy enough I think, there is no "danger zone" like in other maps and the gun is a beast, more often than not 1 tapping a suspect even in the torso.
I don't honestly remember if I collected evidence or cuffed them, I think I may have a few though.
I wore armor and a helmet + gas mask, only swapped my side arm for the achievement run and as stated above, only used the hand gun.
Achievement was unlocked.
Seems like the problem in my runs was a shield on the back or in hands.
Its the NVGs. Do NOT use NVGs. I played through 5 different times. with AI following me, with them not following me, solo MP, and finally with them following me but no NVGs.
My setup that got "Way Out West" - Coyote (Rust Belt) .357 Magnum acheivement.
1. Play on practice mode
2. Equip the AI with whatever you want, they dont impede the acheivement
3. Load yourself up with the revolver and as much ammo as you can (i added a laser to mine too)
4. DO NOT BRING NVG
5. Start up the mission and use the command menu to get your AI to move through the mission like you normally would, they can use tactical devices and grenades and whatever guns they want.
6. Let the AI do all the restraining and defusing of traps just to be safe
7. Shoot the mangum atleast once just to be safe
goodluck fellas
Some people have mentioned the shield might cause an issue too, im not sure though cause i dont run one, maybe best to not use one also, let the AI do all the work
You can use AI commands just fine, they can use all their guns and gadgets too, I had them clear the level for me. My revolver had a red laser on it also with no issue as well as i wore a helmet and gas mask. NVGs were the hitch i found myself caught on for a while though. I kept bringing NVGs cause its dark, but they were blocking it i think cause i tried so many diff combos of ai behaviour and ways of going about the mission but on my last run the only thing i changed was i didnt use NVG. Its worth noting i never run a shield anyway also, so i didnt have one of those.
I got this achievement on the exact same run that I S Ranked Coyote (it was surprisingly easy, but I also got lucky with enemy layouts). No mods or exploits were used. Every one of my squad mates had less-lethal primaries (including me) - everyone with a pepperball gun, and one with a beanbag shotgun. I wore heavy steel armor, and brought only one magazine for my revolver. I had ZERO attachments on the revolver. I wore a gasmask, and brought an optiwand (which I didn't use) and a handful of grenades (which I didn't use).
What I did:
I ordered my team everywhere to dispatch suspects (non-lethally, but I don't think that matters). I used quick commands and the command wheel.
I ordered my teammates to throw many grenades (all three types).
I shouted at suspects to surrender and ordered them to turn around and come toward me.
I cuffed surrendered suspects (using the F key - not by equipping flexicuffs).
I bagged dropped weapons.
I opened and closed doors.
I aimed down sights with my revolver, but never switched to a point-shooting (canted weapon) stance.
I interacted with other collectible evidence (passports and the boat in the tunnel).
I fired my revolver exactly once into the ceiling of the cave near the end of the mission (so the game would count me "using" it). It is the only round I fired in the entire level, and I hit no one.
I switched to my revolver immediately at the start of the level and never switched to another weapon.
I ordered my squad to secure the area after the last suspect was apprehended (I had missed 2 weapons near the beginning of the cave entrance).
What I did NOT do:
I never threw a grenade.
I never used the optiwand.
No NVGs.
No weapon lasers or flashlights activated, no optics looked through.
No wedges used.
I never equipped anything besides the revolver after switching to it at the begining of the level.
I never used a shield, a taser, launcher, etc.
I did not kill, injure, or directly incapacitate anyone outside of shouting for compliance.
Where I think people go wrong:
Equipment counts as something other than a revolver (as the other limited achievement has you using tasers and flashbangs only, the game can tell when you use them).
The revolver must be shot at least once - otherwise the game does not know you have "used" it. Equipping a weapons doesn't seem to count as using it (else your starting primary weapon would invalidate it immediately), but pulling the trigger does. I strongly suspect that anything that uses a keyboard or mouse button to activate counts as an "item used" for the game - such as lasers, NVGs, flashlights, etc - but not gasmasks, face shields, etc. I don't have evidence to support this, but I do feel that aiming down the sights also counts for this, if you are using an optic on your weapon.
Myths broken: you can absolutely bag guns and cuff suspects. You can absolutely open doors and command your team. And your team can (and likely should) do 99% of the work, to include throwing grenades and using primary weapons.
Questions that need to be answered: Can you use weapon attachments (lasers, flashlights, optics) and still get the achievement? Do NVGs count as using an item the same way that grenades and door wedges do? Do you actually need to "use" the revolver for the achievement to work, as I hypothesize you do?
EDIT:
This lends credence to the hypothesis that NVGs will ruin the run, but if the laser statement is true, it means my assumption that any device you must push a button to use will nullify the achievement (except for the revolver) is false.
I always do this:
Practice mode, wearing ballistic mask, 11-round AP magnum + laser, only Magnum on hand, only mirror gun, no other attachments, all AI equipped the same as me, rendered incapacitated(spiral icon), using the command menu, evidence and soft objectives not fully completed
I tried twice unsuccessfully:
Using the UMP (no ammo), I fired at everyone (suspects & civilians), killed one person(skull icon), used the command menu (only ordered AI to hold in place), and used the aim key.
Using the pepper gun (no ammo), I fired at everyone (suspects & civilians), killed someone(skull icon), used the command menu (ordered AI to clear the room and follow), and used the aim key.
The last successful attempt:
Using the pepper gun (no ammo),I forgot whether I shot at civilians, and I'm unsure if I killed anyone, used the command menu (ordered AI to clear the room and follow), didn't use the aim key, and immediately switched to the Magnum at the beginning.