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Pindie Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:31pm
Twisted Nerve, too big too dark
Level is too dark. Flashlights are very weak. Light bouncing should light up whole rooms not tiny area around the center of the lit circle.
Level is too big for the number of officers. It is completely bizarre that multiple houses would be raided in turns by a single stack of officers. If the game had multiple teams like Rainbow 6 it would make more sense for map size.

These concerns were raised a lot during EA development but it seems like that time was not used correctly to tweak it.

tl;dr:
Maps are too big. The game is too dark.
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DeadlyFred Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:33pm 
That map IS a bit convoluted and large but as to your other point, there ARE NVG in the game...
Bukkacracy Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:36pm 
It hits the SWAT 4 vibe perfectly. I had no expectations beyond that. Also im pretty sure the implication is that the Los Suenos PD is understaffed given the way they're constantly talking about how the city is going to hell.
Last edited by Bukkacracy; Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:36pm
Gonzo850 Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
-This level is best played with NVGs and IR lasers imo.

-I agree that it's an unrealistic situation for such a small team. I'm guessing it was done this way for fun and challenge.

-For big maps like this I usually have one team holding down a path and another clearing. I like to imagine the suspects like rats on a sinking ship and I'm the water. I clear from one side to the other while blocking paths and I'm trying to scare all the rats to the other end of the ship. I hope this helps. GLHF :jesse_happy:
Last edited by Gonzo850; Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:43pm
Originally posted by Gonzo850:
-This level is best played with NVGs and IR lasers imo.

-I agree that it's an unrealistic situation for such a small team. I'm guessing it was done this way for fun and challenge.

-For big maps like this I usually have one team holding down a path and another clearing. I like to imagine the suspects like rats on a sinking ship and I'm the water. I clear from one side to the other while blocking paths and I'm trying to scare all the rats to the other end of the ship. I hope this helps. GLHF :jesse_happy:

Pretty much, I tend to do outside first along with that stupid cave, at least if I die I dont die after I have done all the other stuff. Then I go first house first floor, second floor, second house second floor + attic, second house first floor. Works pretty consistently
StrangeAK47 Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
i like it you just need to learn the layout, though it is overwhelming at first
Pindie Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:53pm 
Guys, I am playing the commander mode. There are no retries just because you realize there is a light swallowing darkness on the level.

Flashlights should work just as well as nods in small rooms. For underfunded department I would expect no NODS or maybe a single set. I am trying to play this realistic.

Once you equip the team with NODs and IR lasers you can just call the game "Delta Force 4" , the whole game starts looking like war in Afghanistan.

I should know the layout from briefing but the map is garbage.
Last edited by Pindie; Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:53pm
[BLK] Telu Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:55pm 
I use nightvision all along.

Flashlight are too small to be useful in this game.

Best tactic for this map is to clean one house. Go outside, clean the other house. Then, clean the rest.
Last edited by [BLK] Telu; Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:59pm
Bukkacracy Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:57pm 
Yeah 40,000 dollar pairs of panoramic night vision goggles are pretty strange ill give you that. As far as I can tell they don't do anything different from the other pair of NVGs either.
Last edited by Bukkacracy; Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:57pm
Pindie Dec 15, 2023 @ 4:03pm 
The bounced light option keeps ticking itself off any so white lights simply do not work. I was using it just fine in EA until they switched it off for performance and I would take performance hit over not being able to use light.

I can beat the mission in Training mode, I'll try campaign another day maybe. The game is ugly and my eyes are tired of looking at it. SWAT 4 devs made better lit levels.
Playing whole level in Night vision is like just reverting to how games used to be in 2000s. Washed out and ugly with no colors.
Last edited by Pindie; Dec 15, 2023 @ 4:04pm
Gonzo850 Dec 15, 2023 @ 6:53pm 
I just played it with a light. That was tough.
Frank Blaskovich Dec 15, 2023 @ 7:06pm 
Originally posted by Bukkacracy:
Yeah 40,000 dollar pairs of panoramic night vision goggles are pretty strange ill give you that. As far as I can tell they don't do anything different from the other pair of NVGs either.
They shouldve just made them an option in the "Facewear" category tbh
[BLK] Telu Dec 15, 2023 @ 7:11pm 
I saw a mod who improve the flashlight. But i can't find it anymore. The light feel more real with it.
Frank Blaskovich Dec 15, 2023 @ 7:11pm 
Originally posted by BLK Telu:
I saw a mod who improve the flashlight. But i can't find it anymore. The light feel more real with it.
dont work no more
m5willmax Dec 16, 2023 @ 3:54am 
Use NVG for dark areas and door wedges to secure the perimeter, clean the sector, remove the wedges, move on, put the wedges on, clean, etc.
Bahah no, it's not big enough also NODS.
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