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EdgarsJ Jul 7, 2022 @ 1:32pm
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It does not feel like an enjoyable game anymore.
Especially since last update it feels unrealistically difficult. I see so many players dying ridiculous deaths. It does not feel like we are an actual SWAT team. Rather it feels like we are suckers against ridiculously trained sharpshooters with lightning reaction.

Out of the last 30 games or so I think we have succeeded in like 4. I feel like the balance is not set the right way and the game does not feel hard, it just feels frustrating. Fearless enemies, bloody security guards who are willing to die for their masters.

You throw a flashbang, shout "hands up, police". The bad guys, instead of giving up, are running around rubbing their eyes, waiting for the moment the blindness goes away so they can oneshot kill one of the SWAT team.

I think I am done with the game for now. Time to wait a new patch with hopefully improved AI.
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Khanjima Jul 7, 2022 @ 1:39pm 
You know there are mods that improve on the AI, i've seen about 2 on nexus that work with this recent patch
Water Jul 7, 2022 @ 1:43pm 
Yeah I stopped playing awhile ago and the difficulty was definitely a factor.

I think my breaking point was having 3 teammates in the same room with a suspect who had "surrendered". I go to cuff him and he stabs me in the face.

Also, a lot of the bad guys are crackheads or junkies, but they seem to have world class marksmanship skills with a pistol.
EdgarsJ Jul 7, 2022 @ 1:52pm 
Do the mods work on the multiplayer too? That is what I am playing.
LazyAmerican Jul 7, 2022 @ 2:04pm 
Plenty enjoyable to me *shrugs*
Khanjima Jul 7, 2022 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by EdgarsJ:
Do the mods work on the multiplayer too? That is what I am playing.

Only if the host has serverside checksum disabled
Slackmalak Jul 7, 2022 @ 2:23pm 
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There is a reason its called early access, and its not nearly as bad as you try to make it out to be, any of amount of difficulty in a game these days and people just wine..
shadowsc133 Jul 7, 2022 @ 2:25pm 
Definitely true! After 500 hours it does not feel like an enjoyable game anymore. I only keep playing because I hate it.
Delta-Frost Jul 7, 2022 @ 3:43pm 
There is many things that not working as intended right now, many bugs, broken mechanics, performance issues, lack of content and so on but the hard part of gameplay is that one thing that i do like. If it was up to me ? i would make it even more harder but maybe it's too hard for some i get it, need to respect other players desires as well.

And it's hard because many systems not working properly right now not because the gameplay is that complicated or difficult. i get what you are talking about...

June update is definitely the worst one so far imo. Feels like a step backwards and not forward.

just make a break - play something else until we wait for next update otherwise you will be burned out of frustration ...
Last edited by Delta-Frost; Jul 7, 2022 @ 3:49pm
POPO Sandh Jul 7, 2022 @ 3:44pm 
It's still enjoyable to me.
TBH I don't think the AI is that OP like people are describing.
I have completed meth house multiple times, club map 3 times and bris cova 2 times.

But i have to say that the Agent AI in the Valley of dolls are by far the hardest ones yet. I haven't completed that map and obviouse one shot through walls are so common in that map.
I think they need to just fix the AI shooting through walls and stuff but keep this difficulty or have a option to select difficulty
Last edited by POPO Sandh; Jul 7, 2022 @ 3:46pm
FINAL_Bₒₛₛ Jul 7, 2022 @ 4:09pm 
Most randoms are bad too.
The AI indeed have better accuracy and reaction time (which just requires a simple fix) but the current community sucks playing RON too.

Shotgun/battering ram everywhere at any door
No callouts for whats the next action or proceeding.
Not enough patience to mirror under the doors or peek in the doors.
Scores below C, Kill on sight, report later, etc, etc.
Last edited by FINAL_Bₒₛₛ; Jul 7, 2022 @ 4:14pm
I don't enjoy the game either anymore after upgrading to the supporter edition, feels like a waste of money. Even though they have outdated graphics, SWAT 3 and 4 are much better than RON.
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Roy Jul 7, 2022 @ 4:17pm 
Im having trouble getting back into it too.
It's great to see the new features and the AI definitely feels smarter, but it also seems more like a terrorist hunt with civilians sprinkled inbetween rather than a successor to SWAT 4.

Also the fake death stuff is kind of odd, it's a nice concept but it often doesn't make sense.

You can onetap a suspect in his vest and he'll drop like a sack of potatoes, you cuff him on the ground and he turns out to be dead.
Then you burstfire a suspect into definite death and he casually gets up on his knees and pulls another weapon seemingly unharmed.
A suspect who took some rounds should at least be slightly panting, gargling or groaning.
Maybe an option to check pulse as a quicker alternative to having to cuff every downed suspect while still clearing areas could make this less of an issue.
(Come to think of it; does doubletapping them work and if yes then does it deduct points at all?)

I was also hyped to see clever usage of cover introduced to the AI, but i've seen so many of them snipe me through little gaps i can barely see them from (while strafe running and accurately firing inbetween to make it even harder to accurately return fire).
Last edited by Roy; Jul 7, 2022 @ 4:18pm
Jozsefirst Jul 8, 2022 @ 5:18am 
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/170
Install this mod if you'd like to have the difficulty toned back down to something a bit more similar to what we had in the previous version of the game.
Roy Jul 8, 2022 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Astartes_XVI_Legion:
That's what happens when you run in like its COD, I was "done with the game" before the patch because clearing maps was trivial and therefor not enjoyable.
Doesn't really have to do with running in like it's COD though, someone can sprint around in a room far away and pop you with deadly accuracy while you can barely see him on your screen.

Doesn't help that they do not react to getting hit whatsoever, no flinch, no decrease in accuracy, they just return pinpoint accurate fire.
I personally prefer to use semi auto and preserve my rounds in tactical shooters like this, having to go full auto on a suspect just because you know he'll not be bothered in the slightest until you reach his sometimes 5+ required rounds to the chest/face is a bit of a flow breaker.
Girth Worm Slim Jul 8, 2022 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by FINAL_B:
Most randoms are bad too.
The AI indeed have better accuracy and reaction time (which just requires a simple fix) but the current community sucks playing RON too.

Shotgun/battering ram everywhere at any door
No callouts for whats the next action or proceeding.
Not enough patience to mirror under the doors or peek in the doors.
Scores below C, Kill on sight, report later, etc, etc.
stopped playing because randoms stopped using mics after like a day and charge through every door as if they're playing cs:go
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