They really need to tone down the spread the Shotguns have

[Trauma Loop]

Seriously it's actually insane how much spread they have even at a distance of like 5 meters.

[CptnSpandex]

Blunderbuss mechanics haha :).

[Fresh whole wheat bread]

i agree

[Cryptic]

i actually thought the spread for shotguns was good in this. better than most games. you have some range in this.

[Major Fret]

Originally posted by Corrosion:

i actually thought the spread for shotguns was good in this. better than most games. you have some range in this.

The patterning is absolutely wack. Take a shotgun to the kill house and fire at the wall. Unless the spread has been updated in the latest patch, you're gonna get a wide variety of patterns, from fist-sized to spread, to horizontal and vertical lines from shot to shot.

[Trauma Loop]

Originally posted by Major Fret:

Originally posted by Corrosion:

i actually thought the spread for shotguns was good in this. better than most games. you have some range in this.

The patterning is absolutely wack. Take a shotgun to the kill house and fire at the wall. Unless the spread has been updated in the latest patch, you're gonna get a wide variety of patterns, from fist-sized to spread, to horizontal and vertical lines from shot to shot.

Exactly this. the spread pattern it wack as all hell. you can go from a massive circular spread to a perfect vertical line in just 2 shots. it's insanely random and also way too big.

[Duenan]

This is a thing that really bugs me in most FPS, especially in these CQC maps. At these room distances there is virtually no spread. Even on some of the more open maps like the pier the spread would be minimal at that distance.

[Enforcer]

+1

[S P Y M A S T E R]

What are you retarded? This game has shotguns nailed perfectly unlike the likes of cod or god forbid that travesty that escape from tarkov did.

[Hashley Hashbrowns]

I remember using the benelli and shot someonnne in the chest point blank and they popped me

[Trauma Loop]

Originally posted by Jesus_Guy:

Tell me you know nothing about guns, without telling me you know nothing about guns.

The spread pattern is pretty spot on. Are you using the "Spread" choke? or the Break?

The spread choke, is not a full choke. A spread choke well... increases the spread of the shot. A Full choke keeps the pattern tighter, it's not COD tight, and that is not in this game, yet. The break only deals with recoil dampening.

No you're just flat out wrong. unless your fireaem has something seriously wrong with it then it should not produce these kind of results. and since I'm not just gonna make a claim and not back it up with some sort of evidence here are 3 images I took after emptying a whole tube of shells into the cardboard target at about 5-6 meters

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940169406296768582/959255375033544784/20220401015521_1.jpg Stock

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940169406296768582/959255383191482389/20220401015651_1.jpg 12g Brake

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940169406296768582/959255390820896830/20220401015757_1.jpg Spread Choke

if you can honestly say that a Shotgun at a distance of 5-6 meters can produce a spread like this then I demand you show evidence of such things rather than just make a claim.

(Do note I'm only using the M1014 in these images as the pump action and M1014 produce identical results)

((also if you do provide proof of claims then don't point to the littlest shotgun as that has no barrel and this nothing to help guide its spread, so only use footage of the M1014 and the CQB pump action, as it only seems fair))

[shadowsc133]

Originally posted by Sigwald M. Holister:

Originally posted by Jesus_Guy:

Tell me you know nothing about guns, without telling me you know nothing about guns.

The spread pattern is pretty spot on. Are you using the "Spread" choke? or the Break?

The spread choke, is not a full choke. A spread choke well... increases the spread of the shot. A Full choke keeps the pattern tighter, it's not COD tight, and that is not in this game, yet. The break only deals with recoil dampening.

No you're just flat out wrong. unless your fireaem has something seriously wrong with it then it should not produce these kind of results. and since I'm not just gonna make a claim and not back it up with some sort of evidence here are 3 images I took after emptying a whole tube of shells into the cardboard target at about 5-6 meters

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940169406296768582/959255375033544784/20220401015521_1.jpg Stock

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940169406296768582/959255383191482389/20220401015651_1.jpg 12g Brake

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940169406296768582/959255390820896830/20220401015757_1.jpg Spread Choke

if you can honestly say that a Shotgun at a distance of 5-6 meters can produce a spread like this then I demand you show evidence of such things rather than just make a claim.

(Do note I'm only using the M1014 in these images as the pump action and M1014 produce identical results)

((also if you do provide proof of claims then don't point to the littlest shotgun as that has no barrel and this nothing to help guide its spread, so only use footage of the M1014 and the CQB pump action, as it only seems fair))

Not an expert, but it does seem to have very different effects and what I would expect to see IRL:

CHOKE: https://ibb.co/1RWbSZq
STOCK: https://ibb.co/3WYrPy4
BREAK: https://ibb.co/frPS3Sd

All tested with the same gun (870 CQB), same distance, shooter, and target.

[S P Y M A S T E R]

Originally posted by Jesus_Guy:

Tell me you know nothing about guns, without telling me you know nothing about guns.

The spread pattern is pretty spot on. Are you using the "Spread" choke? or the Break?

The spread choke, is not a full choke. A spread choke well... increases the spread of the shot. A Full choke keeps the pattern tighter, it's not COD tight, and that is not in this game, yet. The break only deals with recoil dampening.

Perfect summary

[Enforcer]

@shadow
At what distance?

[shadowsc133]

Originally posted by Enforcer:

@shadow
At what distance?

How do I measure distances in-game? Not even the Devs know how to properly size stuff in-game anyway. I would say about 7 paces, or where the light spot is here: https://ibb.co/t4S6YgY

To the target here: https://ibb.co/7WjJg4C

[Louis II de Bourbon]

Originally posted by Pink Panther:

shotguns are trash anyway, suspect behind a door - i empty my m4 shotgun mag and nothing, i pull out my small 9mm silenced pistol - one shot and he dead lol

Shotguns can't penetrate obstacles for now. That's why.