Should I use silencers?

[karmazyn1]

Every time I equip a weapon, it does not have silencer attached. Do I make a mistake by attaching one as clearly game does not want me to have it by default?
Thanks.
Are there any penalties for using silenced vs non silenced weapons?

[McKinstrey]

The game gives you the weapon as it is first. Attachments are called attachments for a reason. If you want them to be attached then you do that, there's nothing to silencer, except the sound reduction. It's not Siege, where silencers reduce the damage of the firearm.

[Harris]

I imagine there is no practical benefit to using suppressors for situations we find ourselves in the game. A single shot fired by a suspect (or teammate for that matter) and there goes your stealthiness.

[ddp3slow]

The only possible use so far would seem to be the hostage maps, as those seem to require the most stealth. Even then we still always end up alerting the enemy somehow anyways so idk

[mjbn77]

The silencers in the game (as they are in real life) are louder than you want them to be (still not as loud as without them), should reduce muzzle velocity slightly (don't know if the game is replicating that correctly), and make the weapon longer, which makes it harder to peek around corners (I love it how the game takes weapon length into effect).

[GodEmperorTrump]

Bro they dont reduce muzzle velocity in real life... they either do nothing to muzzle velocity or in some cases they actually increase it slightly.

[Vault Traveler]

I didnt test it but silencer in cqb can be troublesome due to the increased weapon lenght but again I did not test it if its already implemented in RoN.

[mjbn77]

Originally posted by GodEmperorTrump:

Bro they don't reduce muzzle velocity in real life... they either do nothing to muzzle velocity or in some cases they actually increase it slightly.

Maybe I mix that up with the built in silencer in the MP5SD which we had at our range at the military school I was stationed at 25 years ago. That silencer was definitely designed to make 9mm para bullets subsonic:

"In 1974, H&K initiated design work on a sound-suppressed variant of the MP5, designated the MP5SD (SD—Schalldämpfer, German for "sound suppressor"), which features an integral but detachable aluminium sound suppressor and a lightweight bolt. The weapon's 146 mm (5.7 in) barrel has 30 2.5 mm (0.1 in) ports drilled forward of the chamber through which escaping gases are diverted to the surrounding sealed tubular casing that is screwed onto threading on the barrel's external surface just prior to the ported segment. The suppressor itself is divided into two stages; the initial segment surrounding the ported barrel serves as an expansion chamber for the propellant gases, reducing gas pressure to slow down the acceleration of the projectile. The second, decompression stage occupies the remaining length of the suppressor tube and contains a stamped metal helix separator with several compartments which increase the gas volume and decrease its temperature, deflecting the gases as they exit the muzzle, so muffling the exit report. The bullet leaves the muzzle at subsonic velocity, so it does not generate a sonic shock wave in flight. As a result of reducing the barrel's length and venting propellant gases into the suppressor, the bullet's muzzle velocity was lowered anywhere from 16% to 26% (depending on the ammunition used) while maintaining the weapon's automation and reliability. The weapon was designed to be used with standard supersonic ammunition with the suppressor on at all times"

[Southpaw]

It is NOT a silencer, its a suppressor. There is no such thing as a silent shot. The suppressor hides the muzzle-flash, and suppresses the sound. Mainly when you go on a night patrol (real life story) you put a suppressor on your rifle so when contact is made the enemy doesn't see flashes and makes it harder to pin point the exact pos of the troops.

Back to RoN, you can put a suppressors on most weapons and then give them as load-out to the AI-Teammates.

[McKinstrey]

Originally posted by Old Gaming Bastard:

It is NOT a silencer, its a suppressor. There is no such thing as a silent shot. The suppressor hides the muzzle-flash, and suppresses the sound. Mainly when you go on a night patrol (real life story) you put a suppressor on your rifle so when contact is made the enemy doesn't see flashes and makes it harder to pin point the exact pos of the troops.

Back to RoN, you can put a suppressors on most weapons and then give them as load-out to the AI-Teammates.

That's why "SIlencerCo" produces quality products, yeah.
That's why when I type 'silencer' in google the first 1000 finds that come up are gun attachments.
That's why the ATF has the word 'silencer' multiple times on their website
Just stop trying to know something that you don't please

[Shrinkshooter]

Originally posted by LaxJägare:

Silencers are called supressors and are only quiet if low velocity ammo is used.

Haven't thought about this but could you possibly go "hollywood quiet" with a suppressed weapon that has plenty of "killing power" by using low velocity JHPs? I don't even know if anyone makes hollowpoints with low grain count

Originally posted by McKinstrey:

That's why "SIlencerCo" produces quality products, yeah.
That's why when I type 'silencer' in google the first 1000 finds that come up are gun attachments.
That's why the ATF has the word 'silencer' multiple times on their website

These are bad arguments. Those all exist because Hollywood and the media called suppressors the wrong name for decades until it entered popular vernacular, and then it became a feedback loop. Technically speaking they are still not correctly called "silencers." It's the same thing with the word "donut" instead of "doughnut"; the wrong spelling became so popular and widespread because of Dunkin Donuts that everyone started spelling it wrong, and it eventually entered into dictionaries as accepted spelling of the word instead of the actual, correct spelling.

[OgamiTringle]

Originally posted by Shrinkshooter:

Originally posted by LaxJägare:

Silencers are called supressors and are only quiet if low velocity ammo is used.

Haven't thought about this but could you possibly go "hollywood quiet" with a suppressed weapon that has plenty of "killing power" by using low velocity JHPs? I don't even know if anyone makes hollowpoints with low grain count

Originally posted by McKinstrey:

That's why "SIlencerCo" produces quality products, yeah.
That's why when I type 'silencer' in google the first 1000 finds that come up are gun attachments.
That's why the ATF has the word 'silencer' multiple times on their website

These are bad arguments. Those all exist because Hollywood and the media called suppressors the wrong name for decades until it entered popular vernacular, and then it became a feedback loop. Technically speaking they are still not correctly called "silencers." It's the same thing with the word "donut" instead of "doughnut"; the wrong spelling became so popular and widespread because of Dunkin Donuts that everyone started spelling it wrong, and it eventually entered into dictionaries as accepted spelling of the word instead of the actual, correct spelling.

Who cares? seems like a silly thing to flex the EPEEN over.

[N*rd]

Originally posted by GodEmperorTrump:

Bro they dont reduce muzzle velocity in real life... they either do nothing to muzzle velocity or in some cases they actually increase it slightly.

to be more precise

No the don't reduce/or enhance velocity - You have to use a special ammonition thats not acclerating faster than soundwaves, if you want maximum soundreduction. This will cause the bullet to be slower (=lower deadly distance), but nothing changes on close quater situations.. like 10-100m+
You can use normal Ammo it will reduce the "Bäng" a little bit.

[Shrinkshooter]

Originally posted by OgamiTringle:

Who cares? seems like a silly thing to flex the EPEEN over.

Why are you directing that to ME, and not the guy who falsely told someone else "you're wrong because of these invalid reasons"? Go tell that guy "who cares," not me, I didn't start this. Unless for some wildly mysterious reason you find what I said triggering somehow.

[웃⊱ ➵archer웃⊱ ➵❦]

i never use them i use the advantage of the sound so i know in which room they are and use as first weapon the peppergun otherwise it is almost not posibble to get a A or A+ score.

[Mazza]

Do people not know how Suppressors work in real life ? Huge Facepalm moment there lol.

I love the realism this game brings it keeps the "FPS 1 man army hero" players away.

Just needs a decent PVP mode now that would be epic.