Listen up PvP haters, this is SWAT 4 PvP and it was fun.

[Fosty]

https://youtu.be/LzhtZAb4h_Q

It's time to lay some knowledge on you.

Void is trying to imitate the SWAT series. SWAT 4 had PvP and it was fun, damn it!

It looks a bit chaotic in this video, but this was the smallest map.


I keep seeing all these people who are saying crap like "Oh no it will be like Siege" and "How will you arrest people!?"

Well this is how. Watch the video. You stun them, cuff them, and for extra points for doing so.


This isn't the only game mode either. There was a VIP escort mode which was quite popular too.

[EmoPig]

Publicado originalmente por Nachovsky:

you are crazy man, COOP can retain players well. You are loosing a big point and that's MODS means NEW SUSPECTS NEW MAPS NEW GUNS NEW BEHAVIOURS a lot of new stuff.
This game doesn't need pvp at all, how the hell are you suppose to do police work on PVP? it's just non existant. ARMA 3 is a game that thrives ON PVE, it's still being played even though it's a really old game.
PVP in swat sucked so bad. Swat was meant for simulating police. PVP ruins simulation for a lot of aspects.
Honestly the devs should just ditch PVP and keep developing stuff for COOP

Get out of your bubble. SWAT 4 PVP was (and still is) one of the best tactical PVP games ever made. I've been playing SWAT 4 PVP (VIP Escort mode) since 2007 and I'm still not bored of it. You have no idea how many hours I poured into this game's VIP Escort mode and how much time my team and I spent discussing tactics for our matches (we used to play 5vs5, 6vs6, sometimes even more than that) against other teams, or in the tournaments that were hosted for this game's PVP side. That was just the competitive side of the game, because usually, we would just play on our 16 players VIP Escort dedicated server.

[Feldhobel]

Publicado originalmente por EmoPig:

Get out of your bubble. SWAT 4 PVP was (and still is) one of the best tactical PVP games ever made. I've been playing SWAT 4 PVP (VIP Escort mode) since 2007 and I'm still not bored of it. You have no idea how many hours I poured into this game's VIP Escort mode and how much time my team and I spent discussing tactics for our matches (we used to play 5vs5, 6vs6, sometimes even more than that) against other teams, or in the tournaments that were hosted for this game's PVP side. That was just the competitive side of the game, because usually, we would just play on our 16 players VIP Escort dedicated server.

The interest on youtube seems not that high.
if i type in: "Swat 4 pvp" i found videos in that order:
5 years ago, 4 years ago, 6 months ago, 1 year ago, 5 years ago, 7 years ago, 4 years ago, 1 year ago ...

[mos]

Was addicted to SWAT4 PVP. The video here doesn't do its justice. Siege PVP and SWAT4 PVP should not be compared directly. SWAT4 focuses more on tactic & teamwork. You dun have much variety of weapons and gears to choose like Siege. What you have is your teammates.

[Glock Ness Monster]

While I'm not a big fan of PvP multiplayer in games like this I definitely think it's something it should have. As there are probably people who will prefer the PvP over the PvE gameplay.

[Vault Traveler]

Publicado originalmente por EmoPig:

Publicado originalmente por Nachovsky:

you are crazy man, COOP can retain players well. You are loosing a big point and that's MODS means NEW SUSPECTS NEW MAPS NEW GUNS NEW BEHAVIOURS a lot of new stuff.
This game doesn't need pvp at all, how the hell are you suppose to do police work on PVP? it's just non existant. ARMA 3 is a game that thrives ON PVE, it's still being played even though it's a really old game.
PVP in swat sucked so bad. Swat was meant for simulating police. PVP ruins simulation for a lot of aspects.
Honestly the devs should just ditch PVP and keep developing stuff for COOP

Get out of your bubble. SWAT 4 PVP was (and still is) one of the best tactical PVP games ever made. I've been playing SWAT 4 PVP (VIP Escort mode) since 2007 and I'm still not bored of it. You have no idea how many hours I poured into this game's VIP Escort mode and how much time my team and I spent discussing tactics for our matches (we used to play 5vs5, 6vs6, sometimes even more than that) against other teams, or in the tournaments that were hosted for this game's PVP side. That was just the competitive side of the game, because usually, we would just play on our 16 players VIP Escort dedicated server.

You know that pvp games with under 200 people at times considered as death right?

I do not want to burst your bubble but face it you are a dinosaur.

[Vault Traveler]

Publicado originalmente por cybershrimp:

Publicado originalmente por startrekmike:

The apprehension here is pretty justified when you consider that PvP players do tend to be the squeakiest wheel and thus end up getting the most grease in any given game community. When SWAT 4 was developed, it was still pretty common to develop a shooter with a strong focus on single player and only really offer multiplayer as a sort of added bonus on top of that. Nowadays, shooters pretty quickly get deeply entrenched PvP/high-level competitive crowds that have VERY specific balancing demands that usually run contrary to the single player/co-op experience.

A lot of great franchises have died a hard death because of this.

Have you heard of the term " generalisation " ?

Isnt „every game that has no pvp will be forgotten“ also a generalization?

[Marksman Max]

Publicado originalmente por Schlumpf4./JgBtl 1:

lmao claiming its fun and posting such kind of video as proof. LMAO i had to spit my coffee. the dumbest idiocrazy thing i did read in a very long time

did u ever did notice . there is pvp in the gaeme but the devs was locking that mode for a eason. because it was going into the siege ♥♥♥♥ theme . ?
or u just randoomly talk ♥♥♥♥ to post atleast something ?

"...and here we see a troll in his natural habitat."

[Feldhobel]

Publicado originalmente por Marksman Max:

Publicado originalmente por Schlumpf4./JgBtl 1:

lmao claiming its fun and posting such kind of video as proof. LMAO i had to spit my coffee. the dumbest idiocrazy thing i did read in a very long time

did u ever did notice . there is pvp in the gaeme but the devs was locking that mode for a eason. because it was going into the siege ♥♥♥♥ theme . ?
or u just randoomly talk ♥♥♥♥ to post atleast something ?

"...and here we see a troll in his natural habitat."

i want to live in your world, where every stranger on the internet who disagrees is a troll. my life would be so much easier.

[mos]

Publicado originalmente por Schlumpf4./JgBtl 1:

Publicado originalmente por Fosty:

https://youtu.be/LzhtZAb4h_Q

It's time to lay some knowledge on you.

Void is trying to imitate the SWAT series. SWAT 4 had PvP and it was fun, damn it!

It looks a bit chaotic in this video, but this was the smallest map.


I keep seeing all these people who are saying crap like "Oh no it will be like Siege" and "How will you arrest people!?"

Well this is how. Watch the video. You stun them, cuff them, and for extra points for doing so.


This isn't the only game mode either. There was a VIP escort mode which was quite popular too.

lmao claiming its fun and posting such kind of video as proof. LMAO i had to spit my coffee. the dumbest idiocrazy thing i did read in a very long time

did u ever did notice . there is pvp in the gaeme but the devs was locking that mode for a eason. because it was going into the siege ♥♥♥♥ theme . ?
or u just randoomly talk ♥♥♥♥ to post atleast something ?

Dun understand why people keep saying ReadyOrNot PVP will fall into Siege. If that so siege has fallen into SWAT4 PVP theme already.

[Marksman Max]

Publicado originalmente por Feldhobel:

i want to live in your world, where every stranger on the internet who disagrees is a troll. my life would be so much easier.

No, like, seriously. He's been on at least four different threads just insulting everyone while providing nothing to the discussion.

[Feldhobel]

Publicado originalmente por Marksman Max:

Publicado originalmente por Feldhobel:

i want to live in your world, where every stranger on the internet who disagrees is a troll. my life would be so much easier.

No, like, seriously. He's been on at least four different threads just insulting everyone while providing nothing to the discussion.

okay i understand. oof hes a rough one.

[Marksman Max]

Publicado originalmente por cybershrimp:

Agreed, he writes a lot of rubbish.

Some real bottom of the barrel-tier bait, too. At least he gave me an expensive award for some reason, so there's that lmao.

[EmoPig]

Publicado originalmente por Captain Price:

I literally will never enjoy Ready or Not PvP because I don't enjoy small scale PvP. There is nothing realistic or immersive at all about 5 SWAT vs. 5 terrorists, etc.

I will never enjoy a 5v5 PvP, so don't see why I need to support it for the this game.

SWAT 4 PVP was made for 16 players, so it would be 8vs8, not to mention that if we'll be able to host our own dedicated servers, we can put even a higher limit (or lower). That plus modded maps already start sounding amazing. I'm also not a fan of the matchmaking system, so 5vs5 PVP, without dedicated servers, would be pretty rubbish, although I'd have no problem with it as long as we can host our own dedicated servers (separately from the official matchmaking system, just like in Counter Strike) and be able to tinker with the settings (player count, and so on). PVE players would be able to host their own dedicated servers aswell, so it would be a win-win situation.

[SnowMew]

Definitely agree with Nords first comment.

I'm fine with PVP as long as the base games co-op is first and foremost. As soon as the core game starts to suffer because of PVP, is really the only time I'll be against it.

[Vault Traveler]

The truth is I dont see devs successful deliver coop/sp alongside with pvp.

I go full steam ahead and even say if there will be ever a pvp it will always feel strange and tacked on.

I am also not to confident that this game will really done at any point.