Invisible tripwires

[Khatangher]

I started having a bug related to invisible tripwires. Absolutely game destroying bug, Kind of kills my interest when I have a not insignificant chance of failing every mission due to no fault of my own. Checked it in multiplayer, my buddy can see tripwires when they are completely invisible to me. Only recently started too, I've seen them before but they disappeared around the time I played my first multiplayer session. (also adjusted graphics settings at the same time, have had no luck reverting settings to make them visible)

Even when visible they slow the pace of the game a ludicrous amount and completely destroy playstyles utilizing fast and hard entrances. Honestly don't even see the point of having a battering ram with traps. Please add a toggle for traps, would rather play SWAT 4 at this point where the game doesn't actively punish me for using the tools at my disposal.

[FINAL_Bₒₛₛ]

You can already mod it to remove traps.

''playstyles utilizing fast and hard entrances.''

Unless it is Active shooter or Bomb Threat mode, there is no need to rush or swipe the map under the clock.

[Beeg Chopper]

Originally posted by Khatangher:

Even when visible they slow the pace of the game a ludicrous amount and completely destroy playstyles utilizing fast and hard entrances. Honestly don't even see the point of having a battering ram with traps. Please add a toggle for traps, would rather play SWAT 4 at this point where the game doesn't actively punish me for using the tools at my disposal.

That's a hard negative from me dude. Traps should be left as it is. Like what Cursed Hawkins mentioned, trap are there to punish reckless play style ESPECIALLY when the mode you are playing are the one that requires extreme care and slow approach such as Barricaded Suspects and Hostage Rescue. I also welcome the RNG aspects of randomly place traps as a way to encourage speed running community to compete.

If you want to utilize fast and hard entry, choose Raid or Bomb Threat. Those two modes specifically remove traps from the maps allowing for a faster pace play style, while equally balance it by having the suspects reacting faster with less hesitant. The usage of C2, shotgun breach and battering ram become much more useful in these modes as well to catch the suspects off guard.

Don't get me wrong, the game is still buggy and invisible wire trip is just one of the many bugs I have encountered in the game that need patching. I also would appreciate the ability to have a custom round just for the added fun value.

However, blaming the already solid and proven gameplay mechanic due to your own recklessness is just unfair.

[PassMaster]

I know what you mean, these are when the traps are facing you, they can be hard to see but if you look to the side of the door frame you will see it.

This is another point though about this game. Not sure if this is intentional from the devs but do you think every trip wire is visible IRL? I've came across stuff made from fishing line overseas, thankfully they were just early warning traps in houses.

[Beeg Chopper]

Originally posted by PassMaster:

I know what you mean, these are when the traps are facing you, they can be hard to see but if you look to the side of the door frame you will see it.

This is another point though about this game. Not sure if this is intentional from the devs but do you think every trip wire is visible IRL? I've came across stuff made from fishing line overseas, thankfully they were just early warning traps in houses.

gonna have to make it visible for gameplay reason. i can already imagine players complaining of buggy trap implementation if the dev make it any harder to see!

besides, i think minus the invisible trap, it is functioning as intended. There are many moments in game where the fault lies entirely on me for not being careful enough and let my guard down when I know I shouldn't.

[Beeg Chopper]

Originally posted by BoomBoomLou:

The idea of booby traps like this on every map is pretty dumb, it should be certain maps. Maybe maps where you're going against unhinged militia types. A crackhead isn't going to think to place traps like this. Also placing traps like this implies they know SWAT is coming and they've had enough time to place them.

Agree, though I do have to mention that trap only exist in Barricaded Suspect and Hostage Rescue. Both terms already alluded to the fact the suspects knows Swat is coming, thus barricading the environment and seting booby trap for us.

That being said, I do want the dev to make this feature and implement it once the game is out. If anything it's to make the whole story more cohesive. Maybe it is mention during briefing or something like that before you start.

i don't mind the current implementation RESTRICTIVELY for early access because it's fun to see people get blown to pieces. Again, only in early access. I'd fuming if they still keep it on release.

Fun question really, does crackheads really can't set a trap? Sure they are high but they ain't stupid. A crackheads with knowledge is an even dangerous crackheads. Or are we simply generalising druggies = stupid/unable to think critically?

[Khatangher]

For the people saying I'm being reckless, I had only set off three or four tripwires before they glitched and became invisible, mostly because I went in blind and didn't even know this game featured traps originally. All I want is to be able to play barricaded suspects with everything that entails (Restrictive RoE, more civilians, etc.) without being severely limited to solely peeking doors or shotgunning them from a significant distance.

If they were map specific it would be much less offensive, but I find it hard to believe that all crackheads and gas stations robbers have easy access to hand grenades. I already modded them out until the invisible tripwire bug is fixed but this really shouldn't be a mod it in yourself type of fix for people who want to experiment with all the tools at your disposal outside of raids.

[bben]

i like traps it keeps u on ur toes

realism ya i get that but if that means encouraging cod rambos gunghos rushing in and getting their teammates killed with impunity id rather see them blown to pieces

u r supposed keep ur teammates safe in a swat game not putting them in danger

tbh i think the game is being kind to players they aint making traps that killed and hurt cops irl like booby trapped wheelchair or spike traps hidden in the backyard etc

all they did is an obvious tripwire

[Iron Man]

If you want to utilize fast and hard entry, choose Raid or Bomb Threat. Those two modes specifically remove traps from the maps

Ive done several Raid modes on Hotel (unmodded, singleplayer) and i found traps there. During one of those missions the hotel Raid had 2 traps.

Just fyi.