SHORT AND LONG LINES

[ostapa1998]

So, I've tried to differentiate my tram system by making short ang long versions of a same line. They have the same pricing, but short versions are just "Suburb - nearest roundabout", while long are "Suburb - city center/big hub"
I've discoevered no one uses long line, even if it brings them from A to B without changing lines and when the nearest tram is longer route
So they prefer take a tram from A to C and then to B, than direct A to B. Sometimes it's even A to C to D to B
Has anyone found this as well?

[MirkoC407]

Which passenger behaviour do you use?

[adlet]

I have had the opposite, no passengers get on a shorter line when a longer line is present. The shorter line was very short, but there is definitely traffic between stops on it. Just that the passengers prefer waiting for the longer line train... not sure why. Pricing is the same on this network regardless of the distance, so may be they think $/km travelled is higher...

On this topic, a related question I have not yet figured out. When there are two train routes (say route 1 and route 2) using the same physical line connecting points A and B, with the same price, same stops in between and the same speed, and no chance to bypass each other, will passengers be choosing only either route 1 or route 2? Or will they board (as in real life) whichever train comes first.

[david_neibig]

Originally posted by adlet:

I have had the opposite, no passengers get on a shorter line when a longer line is present. The shorter line was very short, but there is definitely traffic between stops on it. Just that the passengers prefer waiting for the longer line train... not sure why. Pricing is the same on this network regardless of the distance, so may be they think $/km travelled is higher...

On this topic, a related question I have not yet figured out. When there are two train routes (say route 1 and route 2) using the same physical line connecting points A and B, with the same price, same stops in between and the same speed, and no chance to bypass each other, will passengers be choosing only either route 1 or route 2? Or will they board (as in real life) whichever train comes first.

Depends on which PAX AI you use "considers any train" or "considers optimal train". "considers any train" will use whichever train comes first. "considers optimal train" will create a probably create a bias from one line over the other

[trunxson]

Where is the PAX AI option set, I cant find it anywhere but I am sure it will be obvious.

[Harbie]

It's in the "Company and accounting" option - top right - the one with the dollar icon.

[ostapa1998]

Originally posted by MirkoC407:

Which passenger behaviour do you use?

I use "considers only optional" train. I'll try using "any", but have a feeling they would pick whatever goes in the needed direction, even if it would require ACDB instead of AB
Plus I now miss the point of an optimal choose. I thought it was meant to use the most balanced money/time routes, not just biasing one line over another
Yep, it worked, haven't bothered checking, which ways they are using, though

[MirkoC407]

Yes, please change. They count for the second to ignore a line. I have seen them avoding a parallel running line with bigger trains (then going nearly empty) because one additonal trailer car dropped accelleration a tiny bit. They took a good accellerating regional express with one stop more over a pretty sluggish intercity because at least for the first IC stop the regional was really some seconds faster.

They do some silly stuff on "considers any train" too, but not too silly. And, as you are just witnessing, on "only optimal" the results are pretty nasty, too. Basically the dev once wrote that you should always use "any train" unless you suffer from lagging because "only optimal" reduces calculation power by completely ignoring alternatives to the fastest connection possible.

[adlet]

Yes I have been using "only optimal" too. I guess time to change back to "any".